Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Tielli (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sorta WP:SOFTDELETE given the low input, even after two relists. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:50, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

John Tielli
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Not notable solo musician that has been a member of a number of bands. Fails WP:MUSIC Karst (talk) 15:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * While this was prematurely withdrawn in the earlier discussion because passage of WP:NMUSIC was asserted, this misses the boat for a very important reason: NMUSIC does not confer notability just because its passage is claimed; it confers notability only if and when its passage is reliably sourced. The sourcing here, however, rests almost entirely on primary sources like Discogs.com and bands' own Bandcamps; the only source here that counts for anything toward getting a musician over the reliable sourcing hump is Exclaim!, and even that just namechecks his existence in the process of being about the band, and is not substantive enough to support him having a separate article from the band as a standalone topic (and even the band is actually vulnerable to deletion under the tighter NMUSIC rules that pertain today, so just redirecting him there isn't a solution.) Delete. Bearcat (talk) 15:24, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:59, 25 August 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  17:50, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


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