Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Toolen (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Redirect to List of Los Angeles Police Department officers killed in the line of duty.  Jerry  talk ¤ count/logs 03:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

John Toolen
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Subject appears to be notable only for being shot; WP:BLP1E (although as he's dead, I'm not sure if BLP applies, even though he was alive at the moment he got shot). There's also WP:NOTMEMORIAL and it seems a bit propaganda-ish ("Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented") so WP:NOTADVERTISING, too. While it may be a tragedy, it's not notable enough for Wikipedia. Article has just come off an AfD, but the closing admin said he had no objection to an immediate re-opening, as long as each article was nommed individually. I should also add that I created the article. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 18:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as not notable.  D C E dwards 1966  20:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to List of Los Angeles Police Department officers killed in the line of duty. Notable only for being shot; lack of substantial or continuing coverage.  Although there was probably more coverage at the time, temporary notability is not sufficient, however a redirect would be useful.  I have copied the references from the individual article into the list article. --Snigbrook ( talk ) 20:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


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