Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Wadham (died 1578)


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The result was merge to: Various - See AFD. - As the consensus is to merge to various articles I'm closing this as Merge to "Various - See AFD" - (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 22:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

John Wadham (died 1578)

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A slightly difficult case, which has been discussed at Talk:John Wadham (died 1578). John Wadham certainly existed, and had a notable father and a notable son. He appears in genealogical lists (a written form of family tree) from the 16th century onwards, so we know when he was born and when he died, and which children he had. Other than this, however, there is no other information on his life - he was simply a gentleman in Devon. There is a depiction of him on a carved memorial to Joan Tregarthin in the local church, but he didn't design or built this himself, having died some years before (the memorial is mentioned in the article on the church concerned). He doesn't appear to have done anything notable - he didn't hold political office, do anything significant that we know of etc. - and he isn't included in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, for example. The article as it stands pads out the date of birth etc. with information on other people - e.g. details of his son-in-laws's memorial brasses etc., which aren't directly related to Wadham - but once you've discounted these, there's really not much left. The discussion on the talk page had only three participants, but two of these concluding that Wadham isn't notable according to our guidelines. Hchc2009 (talk) 07:06, 27 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge and Redirect: The article's a bit of a WP:COATRACK. Personally, the bar for articles which link a number of unambiguously notable articles that don't cleanly interlink should be considered significantly lower. In this case, however, his notability is low and merging should be clean: move the monument information to Saint Winifred's Church, Branscombe, Devon, fold familial information into Nicholas Wadham (1531–1609), redirect there from this article to preserve the page history, and link between his son and his father Nicholas Wadham (died 1542). ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 09:23, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:08, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:01, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:01, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge and redirect I think User:Hydronium nails it.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 17:25, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect - I find Hydronium's argument persuasive. I feel sorry saying this, because it's obvious that the article creator has taken great care to find things to put in, but   there just isn't much here about John himself. Blythwood (talk) 07:50, 11 June 2016 (UTC)


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