Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Youboty


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:34, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

John Youboty

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American Football player who has yet to make his pro debut in the NFL or other league. He is currently on a practice squad but this does not confer notability, nor guarantee he will play in the NFL at some time in the future. Ravendrop 04:14, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 05:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 05:00, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete He was cut from the Broncos in August. Fails to meet WP:NGRIDIRON, WP:NCOLLATH, or WP:GNG.204.126.132.231 (talk) 20:19, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep clearly passes WP:GNG. Click on the "news" link above and find the hundreds of articles about his college career.  Please complete steps outlined in WP:BEFORE prior to nomination.--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:13, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Most athletes at big universities are going to see their names in print--that's routine sports 204.126.132.231]] (talk) 20:12, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a major difference between "seeing their name in print" and "routine coverage" -- and that's the reason that WP:GNG exists.--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Coverage of college athletics is why WP:NCOLLATH exists. The article's only sources are his profile at Temple (clearly routine) and the fact that he was signed as a free agent (like hundreds of others each year) and cut before playing a regular season game (more routine coverage).204.126.132.231 (talk) 20:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not that simple. Coverage of college athletics is one reason that the guideline WP:NCOLLATH exists.  It states, "Failing to meet the criteria in this guideline means that notability will need to be established in other ways" -- and I believe that is established through the general notability guideline.  I also disagree that all of the coverage of the subject is routine as it goes beyond merely repeating of statistics.  Just because a college athlete doesn't meet WP:NCOLLATH does not mean the subject is not notable.  Notability can be achieved through other paths and I believe that is accomplished here.--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:17, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep I think it's why to early to tell right now. I think he could eventually play a game in the NFL. Pmaster12 (talk) 20:25, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That he might play in the NFL someday is clearly WP:CRYSTALBALL.204.126.132.231 (talk) 19:44, 17 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Youboty is not yet notable. If he does play in the NFL later, we can recreate the article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:01, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 19:21, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Subject clearly fails to meet WP:NGRIDIRON or WP:NCOLLATH. The article's only 2 references are to Temple's athletic website (obviously not independent) and a 2 line mention, along with 15 others, at the Bronco's website about all the free agents the Broncos added after the NFL draft (neither significant nor independent).  Neither source shows the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 19:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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