Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John hornby

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was redirect John Hornby CDC   (talk)  02:48, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

John hornby
I'm not certain whether this is nonsense or just a very poorly written article about a non-notable adventurer. The title is also incorrect (should be John Hornby). Thryduulf 16:12, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * This seems to be a real explorer - when I Googled John Hornby I discovered that there was an explorer by this name who visited the Thelon (not Thenton) River in Canada and got 213 hits for "John + Hornby + Thelon". He also has a "Hornby Point" named after him.  Not sure if he's particularly notable, though.  For the moment Keep and move to John Hornby and I'll see if I can find out anything useful about him.  SteveW | Talk 16:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, 213 hits isn't notability, and none of the stuff mentioned above seems to have any mention on this site. I tried Thelon River, Thenton River, and Hornby Point on this site, and no articles exist.  They probably aren't very significant geologic/geographic features. --Idont Havaname 00:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Although we're all very fond of Wikipedia, it's nowhere near complete yet.  The Thelon River crosses the Northwest Territories and Nunavut in Canada.  The lower 545 km are designated a Canadian Heritage River by their federal government, and it's between one and two km wide along that section.  (The whole thing is about 900 km.) Here's more information, and there's a map on this page. Not having an article on the Thelon River doesn't mean that Hornby isn't notable; it means that Wikipedia needs an article on the Thelon River. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 15:50, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll change to keep, then. --Idont Havaname 03:41, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, not notable. Megan1967 02:08, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. As Google test points out, numbers aren't everything.  Ok, I'm paraphrasing, but if you search "John + Hornby + explorer", you will quickly find two articles or excerpts from the Journal of the Arctic Insitute of North America, apparently based out of the University of Calgary., .  They at least suggest the possibility of a reasonable expansion, although some of our Canadian Wikipedians may have to go find actual paper references.   Soundguy99 04:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep all real explorers.--Gene_poole 05:05, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep real explorers who have geographical places named after them. Send it to the Cleanup taskforce or write a quick stub. Google hits aren't everything. Mgm|(talk) 08:28, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Notable enough. "He made prodigious journeys and left his name scattered over the Barrens, but the man himself is far more interesting than his deeds." - Quote from L. M. Forbes, review of: George Whalley, The legend of John Hornby (London: John Murray, 1962, 367 pp.), in: The Geographical Journal, published by the Royal Geographical Society, Vol. 129, No. 3  (Sep., 1963), pp. 359-360. From JSTOR. -- Uppland 08:32, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. John Hornby is probably notable&mdash;he was a Canadian naturalist who died in an interesting way and about whom at least one book has been written (see previous comment).  Since he died in 1925, it's not particularly surprising that his Google score is a bit low.  On the other hand, this article needs to be fleshed out to at least a decent stub if it is to be kept. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 15:50, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, will be easy to expand with this vfd on the talk page. Kappa 11:00, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, cleanup and expand as well as renaming as John Hornby. Notable Arctic explorer. Capitalistroadster 09:42, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I have now created an article for John Hornby. We don't need this article as a result and there is little to merge so Delete.
 * Redirect to Capitalistroadster's correctly-capitalized and interesting article. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 13:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, orthographic errors aren't worthy of redirects --Mecanismo 21:12, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
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