Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jojar S Dhinsa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 19:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Jojar S Dhinsa

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Too much of the information in this article is unverifiable due to contradictory sources. While it is verifiable (through primary sources) that Dhinsa is the CEO and Chair of an organization called the Athlone Group, it is not clear that this is a notable organization. Many sources claim that Dhinsa is a billionaire, but these claims appear largely based on Dhinsa's own claim to that fortune; reliable sources that list UK billionaires (see List of British billionaires by net worth omit Dhinsa's name. Facts in the article that are verifiable: Neither of these verifiable facts appear to bring Dhinsa to the point of notability, and the prevalence of conflicting sources makes it impossible to build a reliable biography of this subject. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Dhinsa did initiate an effort to purchase Coventry City F.C. in 2004, but the effort apparently faltered when the parties could not agree on who should reveal their financials first.
 * Dhinsa did begin a venture capital firm with Brian Morrissey, an Irish musician, in 2017, but there is no evidence that the VC firm ever actually invested any VC funds in any company, and the firm was dissolved in 2020.
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete The supposed $23 Billion/year turnover company controled by Dhinsa has a wordpress website with stock images and the LinkedIn profile has 1 employee listed . This puts more doubt on the notability and raises serious questions. BobBobster1 (talk) 08:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep The validity of Athlone's website shouldn't be a focus, it has little bearing on Dhinsa's notability. Either way, there are a number of news sources detailing Athlone's business activity in recent years . Dhinsa has not been claimed to be a billionaire in any original edits of his biography, several prominent news sources refer to him as a 'multi-millionaire'. His reputation as a prominent UK businessman can be evidenced by referring to various articles and sources referenced in previous article editions. Suggest keeping the page with agreement on edits, viable sources and clarifications. Wellport12 (talk) 08:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It isn't notable if it never actually invested in a single company though is it!, no mention of the partnership here . If you look through the revision history of the page, all it is is stuff being posted and then removed because it's not properly (or poorly) referenced. Claiming things and actually doing them are two different things entirely; Approaching Coventry FC for a buyout is not notable, actually buying the club would be. Announcing a Venture Capital fund is not notable, investing in companies with the fund would be. Claiming to divert 90% of profits to humanitarian projects is not notable, proof of those projects would be notable.
 * As a primary source for the Athlone Group, having a website that claims these seemingly notable things about a company/person with those claims backed up by news articles; I would say it has a huge bearing on his notability if the Athlone Group isn't what it appears to be!. BobBobster1 (talk) 12:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * UKTech.news appears to allow anyone to submit a story (https://uktechnews.co.uk/submit-your-news-to-uk-tech-news/) so I'm skeptical that it's a very reliable source. pburka (talk) 20:25, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment The cited UK Tech News indicates that Athlone Ventures raised $300m, but this appears to be the only news source about this VC firm. My argument for deletion is less rooted in the number of news sources about Dhinsa and more rooted in the fact that they seem to be contradictory, and largely based on information Dhinsa himself has provided. There is not enough strongly verifiable information about Dhinsa for us to maintain a reliable biography. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:15, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have no doubt that this person exists, but I'm very suspicious that his business success is somewhat exaggerated. All of the sources presented are weak and one can't help but wonder if the subject planted the stories himself. He's gotten some coverage in obscure tech news sites, obscure Asian sites, and a handful of local newspapers doing human interest stories. If he were truly one of the most successful business people in the UK, surely we'd expect to see some coverage in The Times, The Guardian, The Financial Times, or The Wall Street Journal. But the best source we've seen is the Coventry Telegraph, a local tabloid with a circulation of 8,434. pburka (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the sources present appear to be reliable, lacks notability.Aloolkaparatha (talk) 17:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 03:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.