Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon Gooch


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. -Scottywong | gossip _ 14:48, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Jon Gooch

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It's not clear how this guy meets the notability criteria for music. A couple of EPs, no indication of chart success etc, claims to success are vague and unreferenced. i previously prodded this, but realised that's probably not appropriate. So far tags have been removed by IPs and new editors three times, without any new content, and either with no edit summary, or something on the lines of "he's great".  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 10:12, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't think you know much and Electronic music, Jon Gooch aka "Spor" and "Feed Me" has been a popular underground artist for many years, he's worked with 12th Planet (Infiltrata), deadmau5, Korn, among other artists/groups. You say he's only had a couple of EPs, he's had more releases than most popular artists and has been making music since the early millenium. He regularly does podcasts with Chris Acworth (Chris Renegade) for the Lifted Music label.

Personally I think you should look into something before requesting deletion for a page you know nothing about. If you're looking for references just add a notice for them on the page, you don't need to delete it altogether. DarkFlaze (talk) 10:43, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't see why it's absolutely needed to delete an article just because it's missing a few references, I could get most of the references for the page within a couple of hours, I mean, you could've done this yourself (Being a Wikipedia Admin of course), This is like saying the Dodo isn't a good enough article because it's been extinct for over 100 years. I know you're a bird lover, just like we're music lovers, you'd understand where we're coming from. DarkFlaze (talk) 01:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I know nothing about electronic music, so the article needs to tell me why he's notable. Feel free to add independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that he really does meets the notability guidelines for music, your opinion alone isn't enough  Jimfbleak  -  talk to me?  13:33, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

"Has released two or more albums on a major label or on one of the more important indie labels" He's had a full album and an two EPs (Adding up to make another album) on Deadmau5's Mau5trap label, the same label that made Sonny "Skrillex" Moore famous enough win three grammys this year alone. Jon Gooch has been in the EDM scene for a very long time, with many tracks getting to beat port's #1 chart. You shouldn't be making such a large decision of taking down such an influential Artist's Wiki page when you have done ZERO background checking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.130.130 (talk) 01:32, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This user's only edits to date relate to this deletion  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Obviously, because he's not signed in. Anyway, what does that matter? he's trying to save an article. DarkFlaze (talk) 09:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

It's so difficult to make people appreciate things that they have never experienced. That's why people thought that Van Gogh was such a horrible artist, they had not been exposed to that type of art style, back then all people thought was that very realistic drawings was the only TRUE art. A similar phenomenon is happening in music today, people think that EDM is SO easy to make JUST because they use a computer for mixing. People should listen to music just because it sounds good to them, just as they should appreciate art just for the talent and thought that the artist has put in to their creation. It's close minded people like you who are destroying culture from growing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.130.130 (talk
 * Please read this. I'm not judging this, I've put it up for discussion. Who's Vango?  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I edited out anything that could be considered unclear or offensive, I over reacted a bit and I realize this. Don't you think that you should be trying to delete people's articles that don't have a huge fan base or are just very very insignificant like DJ APEX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_(producer))? I don't think that having 188,827 likes on FB, 5,846,432 video views on youtube, and 49,781 followers on twitter is any small feat. And that is just Feed Me's numbers, I haven't even checked Spor's. 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)



I just came across this page and noticed it was being considered for deletion. Considering Jon Gooch's important contributions to drum & bass music, I didn't think it would be appropriate to delete this page. I did notice that it was missing a lot of information as well as many references, notably about his 'Conquerors and Commoners' EP. So I added a paragraph on that, including references. While I don't have time to look for references for everything on the page, I'm sure they are available. I hope Spor's fans will be willing to add information with references so that we can continue to give this producer the page he deserves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Element23 (talk • contribs) 17:50, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Element23 (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * New account. This user's only edits to date relate to this deletion  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep – likely meets WP:GNG. There a little bit of coverage of him here at Billboard ("respected drum'n'bass producer Spor... A full album on Mau5trap, and a headlining North American tour"), here at The San Francisco Appeal ("...may not be one of the biggest names in the U.S. dubstep scene, but his success back home in the U.K. - and support from label head Deadmau5..."), and here at The Eagle ("Spor, the producer’s successful drum and bass project"). Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 01:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey guys - it's been pointed out to me that this page (which has been a useful reference for myself in my own musical endevours and helped me research more into one of my favourite artists (Feed Me) is up for deletion. Someone mentioned musical success - Feed Me has has had considerable radio play, near-headline slots at the Ultra Music Festival, reached number 1 on Beatport and topped the iTunes Dance Charts in several countries. He is currently touring with a highly advanced stage production frequently selling out shows and has toured internationally with great feedback. To presume he isn't notable is absurd. If someone would kindly help me find the previous chart history for the Beatport Top 10 and iTunes Dance Charts we could reference those in the article in a Chart Success area, or something. That along should be enough to prove his notability as he is very successful. Plus with at least two albums on the way (Feed Me album/Spor album) his popularity can only increase. 118.93.100.53 (talk) 02:22, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This user's only edits to date relate to this deletion <b style="font-family:chiller; color:red;"> Jimfbleak - </b> talk to me?  05:39, 6 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Satisfies point 4 of WP:BAND, although the description seems to make no sense at the moment. That confusion is even currently pointed out by an asterisk and comment at the bottom of the page.  The band is featured at Coachella (see here).  Regardless of WP:BAND point 4's current description, I feel that "Feed Me" (one of Jon Gooch's stages names) has received significant coverage from multiple independent and reliable sources that can be seen here.  Ol Yeller21  <sup style="color:#827839;">Talktome  03:55, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
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