Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon Pickens


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The result was   keep.  Wifione  Message 18:59, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Jon Pickens

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The article claims he was a D&D game designer, but in the body it lists manuals and guides he contributed to and edited. That is hardly enough. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep As an early figure in the creation of Dungeons and Dragons, which kicked off the entire RPG hobby, Pickens would meet WP:AUTHOR criterea 1-3. Artw (talk) 14:05, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - invalid deletion rationale. If there is a question of notability, a few independent reliable sources have been added within the past month, and I suspect there is more out there which would make sure it meets the WP:GNG.  If the majority disagrees with me, please send to Draft space rather than delete. BOZ (talk) 14:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Invalid keep rationale. TSR, maker of D&D, published Dragon, hence not independent. Based on the quotations, two of the others show less than monumental accomplishments/suggestions that don't satisfy AUTHOR. I have no idea what the first is supposed to support, but the title shows that he isn't the main subject, same as the other two. It's all slim Pickens. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The first source, the Milwaukee Sentinel article from 1993 which I added, is not entirely about Jon Pickens, but it does support the assertion that he was a significant early figure in the history of D&D; it says he "has worked on most of the company's historical designs". Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 00:48, 18 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - I don't know what refs might have been added in recent edits, but as I see it today, it has multiple sources not from TSR or Wizards of the Coast; that meets WP:GNG. A ref does not need to be "entirely about" someone to be a RS. Side note, this AfD should probably be added to the Games AfD page at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Games - Sangrolu (talk) 13:19, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
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 * Sources aren't great, but appear to meet WP:N Hobit (talk) 10:50, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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