Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonas Conley


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is that while this is a nice, well-written, article, unfortunately there is a lack of verification of notability.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 06:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Jonas Conley

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Nice and worthy article but not notable in Wikipedia terms. References are very local and not from any significant sources. No doubt important for the church and the area where he worked but that doesn't make him notable here.  Velella  Velella Talk 22:12, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - I think the nom sums it up nicely. The sources alone are too local and really primary in nature.  Nothing else exists that even approaches significant coverage.  Interesting, well written and formatted, but not notable via WP:GNG.  Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 22:29, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:36, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I'm not seeing any significant results in Google Books, etc. The claim "was a significant influence on higher education" could indicate notability, but it would need to be found in reliable sources. The reference provided does not mention Conley. StAnselm (talk) 18:33, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - My searches (and believe me, I searched several times with different details) found nothing at all to suggest improvement or better notability. SwisterTwister   talk  06:13, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * preserve - http://madisoncountyal.gov/mcrc/searchprobate.php I'm not a Wikipedia editor, nor am I an expert. However, I did find more than a dozen articles on obscure New England religious figures of similar provincial relevance. These were WASP figures in a circumstance in which accurate records were kept, but even then there were numerous speculative statements regarding their relevance. As mixed race person, the figure Jonas Conley could not even be counted as human being for some 20 years after the Civil War ended. It should be considered that the Huntsville Library archives revealed this figure did in fact lead the CME Church in the region, clearly evidenced by the church and graveyard recognized by the Alabama Historical Commission. However, the Huntsville library does not offer web access to those records. The figure owned property on which two of the historically black colleges in the region are located, but this was in violation of state law which prohibited land ownership by persons of 1/32 African origin. The land records show a white citizen had to sign the Madison County documents on behalf of Mr. Conley. The Huntsville archives: http://digitalarchives.hmcpl.org/ Madison County Property Records Center http://madisoncountyal.gov/mcrc/searchprobate.php CASE 8122 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madisonhistory (talk • contribs) 01:32, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Dear Madisonhistory, this is the only edit you have made on Wikipedia, and you appear to have created your account on 17 or 18 July, 2015 (depending on time zones). I am curious as to what brought you here to this rather obscure corner of WP. It's an odd place to start. LaMona (talk) 22:17, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 15:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I do not really know enough of American history to be sure, but I get the feeling that this man played a significnat role in the struggle for equality. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. In addition to above searches (which I repeated myself), I've also searched ProQuest's historical newspaper database to see if anything shows up, and nothing did. Even if the subject is notable, we can't verify it. agt x  17:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge or redirect to Conley family where he's already mentioned, unless I am mistaken. --j⚛e deckertalk 22:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


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