Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonas Johansson (ice hockey, born 1995)


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The result was   delete. Daniel (talk) 10:07, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Jonas Johansson (ice hockey, born 1995)

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Non-notable teenage hockey player, fails WP:NHOCKEY, no evidence he meets the GNG. Has played almost exclusively in youth leagues. Another in a string by creator falsely asserting that he's played in the SEL, when he has appeared in only two exhibition games.   Ravenswing   03:25, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:07, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails to meet WP:NHOCKEY or GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 13:47, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep or Redirect to Per-Johan Johansson where he is mentioned. This bio article is about a current ice hockey player who has played with Brynäs IF in both the 2012 and 2013 European Trophy, and he won a silver medal with Team Sweden at the 2014 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships. A quick Internet search shows that he likely passes GNG, including Swedish-language sources. Note: The sheer volume of AfD nominations by this editor (45-plus in the last four days alone) makes it impossible to fully research all of the articles to prove they meet GNG. Expecting any editor to fully research this large number of articles is not realistic or fair, especially when one considers that many of these AfDs require searching non-English sources. Going straight to AfD with this many nominations, without first using PRODs or appropriate tagging, is disruptive. The nom should be reminded that deletion is a last resort, and per WP:BEFORE should only be used after other alternatives, including redirects, have been fully explored. Dolovis (talk) 18:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: If you've found sources that pass the GNG, why haven't you added them to the article?  Why would you create an article in the first place without any effort to include valid sources supporting notability, in advance, as WP:BLP enjoins you to do?  In any event, as you well know, there is no presumptive notability attached to playing in exhibition games or in junior tournaments. As far as a redirect goes, while that might seem a plausible redirect where another family member is a great deal more notable, the Per-Johan Johansson article is itself a stub, for a player with a modest pro career.  Which article you created earlier today. Given your persistent bad faith where these articles are concerned, this begs the question as to whether you threw this stub up with the sole intent of having a plausible redirect target should this AfD not go your way. That being said, as many as a hundred articles go to AfD every day, and no one expects any editor to research all of them on the spot; happily, since these are Wikipedia's articles, and do not "belong" to any one editor, there's no onus on any one person to do so.  What is seriously disruptive is creating so many BLP articles without even a cursory attempt at proper sourcing.  Perhaps, rather than creating yet more NN sub-stubs, you could turn your attention to that.   Ravenswing   19:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Delete. Fails NHOCKEY and GNG. None of the leagues are considered a top professional league according to WP:NHOCKEY/LA. Patken4 (talk) 21:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence of a GNG pass in either Highbeam or Google. It is curious that Dolovis claims to have knowledge of sources that exist, but rather than adding them to the article, has chosen instead to complain about how a high number of AFDs has apparently made it impossible him to do what he already claims to have done. Resolute 00:05, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
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