Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonas Lind


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is that the article has been sufficiently improved to meet notability guidelines. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Jonas Lind

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According to the SNG, it is likely that sufficient sources exist to meet GNG if a player has played in one or more professional games, however this does not guarantee notability. WP:BEFORE search did not return sufficient coverage beyond basic stats to meet this standard. –dlthewave ☎ 20:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. –dlthewave ☎ 20:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:23, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep - over 50 professional appearances, meets NFOOTBALL by miles. GiantSnowman 21:39, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep (weak), I found this article from eon.se, this article from bioenergitidningen.se and this article from ne.se about him, although the latter is behind a paywall. If loaded in chrome browser you can auto translate. I think it's plausible that there will be native swedish sources about this former player and likely in his current career. I can't easily verify or search non-english though so it's harder to check this out, but i'm inclined to err with keeping the article. Bungle (talk • contribs) 22:20, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per GiantSnowman passes WP:NFOOTY.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 08:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per guidelines and the coverage that would stem from over 50 pro games. Geschichte (talk) 12:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've added a couple of brief sentences using sources listed here in the conversation here. /Julle (talk) 10:45, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 *  Delete  - As Bungle's first (non-independent) source makes abundantly clear, he was a part-time footballer in a semi-professional league, so fails WP:NFOOTBALL. When he retired in 1998 after three years in the lower leagues fewer than half of the players in the top Swedish league were full-time professional. Anyway, the first two sources are more about his civilian career as an E.on manager - the first one does nothing to establish WP:N because it's a promotional interview published by his employer. I suppose at least it does briefly mention his days as a semi-pro footballer, unlike the second source which only tangentially mentions him as being present at the installation of a boiler in his day job. The third source remains a mystery so we're a distance short of WP:GNG being met. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 15:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Fair points made and it's not been outright determined that his football career was notable. I voted keep weakly and without much conviction as there are publications about him in his current line of work, but whether this is because he was a footballer or by co-incidence is up for debate. I wouldn't say it is a clear-cut/outright keep though, however I am not in a position to scrutinise sources in a language of which I have no knowledge of. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:16, 1 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment. I've further expanded the article somewhat. I'd like to point out that Lind wasn't just any player. He was a fairly central part of a team which won the Swedish national championship, Allsvenskan, in 1989. When fans of IFK Norrköping last year were asked to vote on who best represented the team in the 1980s, on SvenskaFans.com, the major Swedish sports website, he shared the second spot in the vote. He was named the best player in Östergötland in 1992, a year when IFK Norrköping won the regular season (but failed to win the championship). /Julle (talk) 23:18, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article has been improved - now meets NFOOTBALL, and I agree with Julle points. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:43, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per Julle's comments above Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 01:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Simply playing X number of games in a semi-professional league according to a database with very low inclusion criteria, is not sufficient, by itself, to show notability. However Julle has added sources that are inaccessible to me but, assuming they support the description of Lind given above, I will (AGF) assume substantiates keeping the article. FOARP (talk) 20:29, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * They're not the best sources imaginable, but they do substantiate what they claim to substantiate, and are good enough for that, I'd say. (I've reached them through a digitalised archive, so I know no good way of linking to anything.) /Julle (talk) 01:29, 7 January 2022 (UTC)


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