Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Allen (artist)


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The result was no consensus. See WP:NPASR. Kurykh (talk) 01:27, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Jonathan Allen (artist)

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Fails WP:NARTIST. A search for substantial independent sources found nothing, unlike the footballer with the same name. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk,  contribs ) 00:41, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep While the article needs a puffery trim, it only took me a few seconds to find this long quote in the reflist, from the Guardian. This is half off the text that talks about him in The Guardian: "And what of Tommy Angel, stage magician, illusionist and burning-bible thumping "gospel magician"? Like François's deluded soapbox man, he wants us to believe in what can't be proved. Angel is in fact the invention of artist Jonathan Allen, who has cast himself in the role of gospel evangelist, with his sparkly suit and too-perfect smile. His persuasive powers are those of the stage illusionist, with his seamless patter, his boxes of tricks, his smoke and mirrors and misdirections. When I met Allen, briefly, last week, he was negotiating the hire of a live lion for a new act, in which he wished to replicate the story of St Jerome."


 * I then did a proper search and turned up a significant mention in Cabinet Magazine, a small review in PhotoVideo magazine, a Google Books mention in Art21, mentions in this book on blaphemy in art, and his inclusion in this show at Mass Moca.


 * From the above I think he satisfies the basic WP:GNG requirement for distributed sources. The Guardian especially is convincing. Any show at Mass Moca is a significant show, given the institution, so from that I take that he also satisfies WP:ARTIST.198.58.162.200 (talk) 19:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:50, 27 March 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:26, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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