Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Ansar


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The result was delete. Atlantic306's argument is rebutted by Tony; Peterkingiron's "probably keep" argument sure reads like a delete !vote.  A  Train talk 00:10, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Jonathan Ansar

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Not significant coverage to show notability. Most of this appears to be their own website. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:19, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep as Archbishops are normally included, was the subject of a television documentary on God TV Atlantic306 (talk) 16:33, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I fail to find relevant sources outside of primary/in-universe. God TV is not outside of the subject area (and its article is itself currently problematic)...  Archbishops of large religions are most probably more notable, but this appears to be an obscure Baptist church (I also don't find much about The National Church of India).  — Paleo  Neonate  – 18:22, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete archbishops in major Christian groups are typically granted the presumption of notability. I'm not finding anything to demonstrate that either the National Church of India or the archbishop are prominent and meet our typical standards of inclusion for clerics. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:00, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment according to his website he oversees 3000 churches and 44 bishops, but that is not a reliable source... Atlantic306 (talk) 14:18, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * delete I ran a proquest archives search on him, got 2 fairly recent articles, in one he was quoted demanding more police attention to attacksbeign made on Christians in a particulr village and region, in the other he was speaking at a large annual meeting of Christians. Both in general circulation press, but only those two articles, and neight enabled me to figure out what his rank/position is or even which denomination/sect he belongs to.   Fails WP:BASIC, although do feel free to ping me to revisit if someone sources him.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:27, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably keep -- If the claim of the number of churches and clergy under him is true, he is certainly notable. My initial reaction was that he would be a bishop of the Church of North India, but the relevant diocese for it appears to be Delhi.  Christianity is a significant (though minority) religion in India.  HIs church appears to claim to be the result of uniting parts of other denominations.  Googling "INTERNATIONAL COMMUNION OF THE EPISCOPAL RENEWAL CHURCHES " produced nothing.  Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches does not suggest he is linked.  Nevertheless, I must say the amount about him that I find on searches does not inspire confidence.  They make him look like an India TV evangelist with a grand-sounding title.  Peterkingiron (talk) 14:22, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


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