Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Cohen (vintner)


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The result was Speedy nuke under CSD G3: Hoax. Alexandria  (talk)  14:33, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Jonathan Cohen (vintner)

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This article seems to be another of the Cruse-Cohen hoaxes - see WP:Articles for deletion/Baron Cruse-Cohen. The references show only that (a) someone called Jonathan Cohen, based in Chicago, contributes reviews to Wine.com, and (b) someone called Jonathan Cohen is executive director of a temple in Miami Beach. These are evidently not the same person. I can't find any confirmation of the rest - no trace of "Cohen Companies, a wine import and export company based out of Charlotte, North Carolina", or "Cruse wines" as "one of the largest and most respected wine producers in the Southern United States." I looked to see whether there is an un-hoax version in the history, but even the first version by makes false claims about owning the Old Stone Vineyard and Winery. That is a real winery, but its website says "Old Stone Winery was founded in 2001 by Mark, Barbara and Marcus Brown. In the summer of 2009, Darin and Naomi Griffin purchased it" - no Cohens. Conclusion: the references refer to two different people and do not show notability, much of the article is false, there has never been a clean version, so per WP:BLP and WP:V it should be deleted. JohnCD (talk) 11:45, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete – hoax. --Lambiam 11:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as hoax. In case anyone is unfamiliar with the probable inspiration for all this see Sacha Baron Cohen. --AJHingston (talk) 13:24, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete Cruse Wines does exist, but it's in the Bordeaux region of France (and apparently doesn't have Cohens...). Their wines are imported into the USA by the Kirkwood Group. I can't find any evidence for a Cruse Wines in either Carolina. There is a possibility that the Cohen in Chicago commutes to Florida, but then again it is possible that I might become the next Pope. Or the next Chief Rabbi. Peridon (talk) 13:45, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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