Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Hellberg


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The result was delete. joe deckertalk 15:34, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Jonathan Hellberg

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The one citation is the only reference I could find in any of the search engines. Nothing else on News, Newspapers, Books, Scholar, or Highbeam. Doesn't meet WP:GNG, and nothing in the article shows them meeting WP:NMUSIC.  Onel 5969  TT me 19:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've found more refs: this mag interview (does not appear to be the same one as cited on the page) also this review and this article. Possibly more if I look a bit harder. JMWt (talk) 21:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Hi - the first and third are interviews, and being primary sources are invalid for determining notability (in addition, the third is from a blog). The second is definitely interesting, but the site doesn't give it's editorial policy (can you find it anywhere, perhaps I missed it?), and it appears to be a post from ... somebody. Their "staff" page doesn't exist. So not sure that passes WP:RS.
 * It seems to me that the relevant policy is WP:GNG - and that there is a difference between sources to establish notability and the sources needed to prove any statements about the subject. It seems to me that the above references all meet the criteria listed in WP:GNG in that they're reliable (although I don't know how one would prove unreliability of a music magazine or website) and independent of the subject. I don't see anything suggesting that an edited interview on a journalistic site is, actually, a primary source. Even if it is, surely many different magazines and blogs carrying interviews would suggest that they think the artist is of interest - and is notable - even if it is later determined that the facts in the interview are unreliable. JMWt (talk) 10:30, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * All of the above said, I'm not sure whether the artist is really notable enough to be included. However, there are clearly more refs which should be considered than were offered initially. JMWt (talk) 10:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article appears unfinished and I don't see this article going anywhere soon. Jd02022092 (talk) 22:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: WP:RUBBISH and WP:NOEFFORT. Sam Sailor Talk! 11:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. I fail to find significant coverage in independent, reliable sources sufficient to meet WP:BASIC or WP:CREATIVE. Sam Sailor Talk! 11:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor Talk! 11:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete as he's not clearly notable and improvable yet. SwisterTwister   talk  05:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)


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