Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Kingston


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Jonathan Kingston

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Does not meet GNG or NCREATIVE. Not for nothing, as an apparent autobiography, also PROMO and likely UPE. Only one secondary source, without much detail; none of the awards are notable John from Idegon (talk) 20:22, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Article updated to reflect that Jonathan Kingston has works represented in the permanent collection of the National Geographic Fine Art Gallery meeting notability argument for NCREATIVE. Further edits in progress. (MrJK) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrJK (talk • contribs) 21:29, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "Further edits in progress" If article is not complete maybe it should be turned into draft article Freetheangels (talk) 08:21, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KCVelaga (talk) 05:03, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

KEEP I will say that the article itself could use some work and can be written better. But notability goes without question due to fact that the subject work has been in National Geographic, New York Times and is on permanent exhibition at National Geographic Fine Art Galleries. Not to mention his awards Freetheangels (talk) 07:08, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

KEEP Agree that this needs edits to achieve NPOV and remove uncited details. Also agree with Freetheangels, though, that it meets notability guidelines. PDN annual photo awards are prestigious in the field. Charolastra charolo (talk) 00:29, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Comment: The "National Geographic Fine Art Gallery" isn't a museum or display area, as the writer above tries to imply, it's a chain of stores selling photo prints from National Geographic (with locations in resort areas like Ft. Lauderdale, La Jolla, and Las Vegas). So being in the "permanent collection " -- whatever the hell that is supposed to mean -- is meaningless in regards to WP:CREATIVE. --Calton | Talk 05:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, and it turns out that the "National Geographic Fine Art Gallery" isn't a part of National Geographic magazine, it's a private business licensing the name -- and apparently ripping off photographers. --Calton | Talk 05:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 20:15, 13 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Nothing much to work on. (If the PDN photo awards were indeed prestigious, as claimed above, there'd be press coverage of them. Compare Prix Pictet etc.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. While I have enjoyed going to the Nat'l Geo gallery in D.C., it is not a major art museum for which having art in its collections by itself would be evidence this is a notable artist. He seems to fail per our policy for artists and is run of the mill. If somebody can locate independent sources, I'd be willing to change my mind. Bearian (talk) 17:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)


 * COMMENT Can someone who has credits with the New York Times, National Geographic (amongst others) really be considered "run of the mill"? Notable yes. But article reads like a Résumé, providing a chronological outline of key moments of his career/life and outlining achievements and awards but fails to tie anything together or develop anything in depth explaining its significance. Freetheangels (talk) 06:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Promotional, I opened the refs they are primary, passing mentions or his pictures. There is only one webpage out of 12 refs that offers independent coverage and is substantial, however it is in the local press. Szzuk (talk) 08:30, 23 September 2018 (UTC)


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