Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonathan Van Voorhees


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The result was   delete. \ Backslash Forwardslash / (talk) 01:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Jonathan Van Voorhees

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Such a massive autobio crys out for an AfD. Is he notable? &mdash; RHaworth 22:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC) There are footnotes to online information. Currently obtaining other sources from public archives such as LSUS library archives. Also researching case numbers on class action suit. How many newspaper mentions are required? Jvanv 08:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonvanv (talk • contribs) relliable sources added more to come --Jonvanv (talk) 08:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not really; don't see the substantial coverage in reliable sources. Nyttend (talk) 01:11, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 22:05, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 22:05, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep 46 footnotes, 7 independent publications, multiple web sites, seem to indicate that others thought of van voorhees as notable or quotable. I'm sure the article could be improved and I would appreciate any help you may be able to offer. --Jonvanv (talk) 07:33, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  23:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Weak delete I see no incoming links. I see an assertion of "celebrity" that links to a CV (ie, cut hair of celebrities Jill Ireland, Elizabeth Wurtzel etc), and the whole article is basically reproducing what seems to be self-publicity already available on the web.  Project Clear Visions: The Anthrax Conspiracy has an IMDB entry and many associated webpages but no review that I can see.  I haven't checked every link, but of the dozen or so, I have none seems to satisfy WP:CREATIVE on its own; possibly in combination they might achieve notability, but it would require a situation where other editors had access to verifiable sources.  Otherwise, it's just possible it could be moved to userspace, the editor could contribute to other articles, and clean bio up so that notability claims were clearer.  There's an external link to the Coty Award but no indication he won or was nominated for it.  Does the Texas Monthly Bum Steer Award count as notable award?  Any comments or quotes by major hairstylists, in hairstyling magazines? Class action suit would need newspaper coverage IMHO. (Protested against nukes but worked for Raytheon?).  No offence intended, just can't see enough evidence of meeting WP:BIO.  --Cedderstk 18:09, 10 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Nothing on the web about Columbia Park Bust, very little about George D'artois, some about district 14 race. Difficult to find references about class action suit due to date, 1970 which is why this was included - will contact Henry Walker and George Strickler to see if they have case numbers etc. Links to Austin, Orlando, and Dallas Newspapers referencing Van Voorhees as hairstylist that introduced new perm treatment in addition to fantasy styles published indicate he was fairly widely known. will write article about fantasy hair as a sub-genre of hairstyling & van voorhees' contributions were published in news media. Not much on difference between precision hair cutting and hair sculpting, may warrant another article or addition of a section to the article on hairstyle. Coty award was for Bill Tice indicating that Van Voorhees worked with notable people because he was a stylist of note. Texas Monthly is a prominent magazine inclusion in any form is recognition of notability. Everyone has to make a living, not everyone agrees with the positions and policies of their employers. pretty sure NO NUKES was before Raytheon. --Jonvanv (talk) 08:06, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per the lack of reliable sources. A Google News Archive search returns passing mentions, while the sources in the article seem to be more about topics that are related to the subject, not the subject himself. Cunard (talk) 19:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.