Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joombas Music Group discography


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The result was delete. S warm  we ♥ our hive  06:04, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Joombas Music Group discography

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Unsustainable list with vague criteria. Although the list holds itself out as recordings released by Joombas Music Group, it apparently includes any song peripherally connected to the label--such as "One Less Lonely Girl", a song performed by Justin Bieber and released on another label that the CEO of Joombas has a writing credit for.

Additionally, there are no independent sources cited, and the underlying label is not a notable company. To top it all off, the editor who created the article, Josephyangjoombas, has a conflict of interest. —C.Fred (talk) 21:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

The comment below was placed at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion by : Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I do not understand the reason why this page has to be deleted.. We've only listed all the works that our company/CEO Hyuk Shin took part in. Joombas Music Group discography page was made in order to list all the works we've done for people to know what kind of songs we produce and write. Although our company does not OWN the song anymore, all we have listed are the songs we took in part of (producing and writing). Joombas Music Group is a well-known production company in South Korea producing EXO - Growl (Multi Platinum). We not only produce and write songs but we have released our very own singer Dean (South Korean singer). As of right now, we only have listed the works we've took part in (WE DO NOT OWN THE ARTISTS LISTED. WE ONLY HAVE LOYALTY FOR ALL THE SONGS LISTED). But according to @C.Fred, we are NOT allowed to even list any of our work unless our label owns the singer.. Instead of deleting our page.. I wish you guys could just help us fix our problem with references and citations. Instead of deleting our page without specific reasoning. Josephyangjoombas (talk) 21:58, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, welcome to Wikipedia. It looks like the list you've created duplicates a list we already have at Hyuk Shin, and we don't allow external links to YouTube within articles. Could you contribute to the existing list instead? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:19, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I do not understand the reason why this page has to be deleted.. We've only listed all the works that our company/CEO Hyuk Shin took part in. Joombas Music Group discography page was made in order to list all the works we've done for people to know what kind of songs we produce and write. Although our company does not OWN the song anymore, all we have listed are the songs we took in part of (producing and writing). Joombas Music Group is a well-known production company in South Korea producing EXO - Growl (Multi Platinum). We not only produce and write songs but we have released our very own singer Dean (South Korean singer). As of right now, we only have listed the works we've took part in (WE DO NOT OWN THE ARTISTS LISTED. WE ONLY HAVE LOYALTY FOR ALL THE SONGS LISTED). But according to @C.Fred, we are NOT allowed to even list any of our work unless our label owns the singer.. Instead of deleting our page.. I wish you guys could just help us fix our problem with references and citations. Instead of deleting our page without specific reasoning.

1. We are a notable company go search it up on Google. If you could speak Korean PLEASE go to www.naver.com and search us up. We are one of the top producing company. 2. We are a Label Company. We released a singer Dean (South Korean singer). He is also listed under our writer section under the name of Deanfluenza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A96vsgB1EM 3. You can go to our official website fore more details. www.joombas.com 4. If you would like a real prove of our company please come to our office or call us and we will be glad to talk to you. 5. If you Type Joombas on Wikipedia, you could find few things on there. We have not made our Joombas official Wiki page because we are currently working on the contents that will be uploaded on our page. Also, We have changed our company's name to Joombas Music Group from Joombas Music Factory. 6. Our CEO Hyuk Shin is well known in Korea for producing and writing songs and was a former singer. Therefore, many companies use his name instead of using our company's name Joombas. That is one of many company's marketing strategy. 7. if you could have a Korean Speaking person, please look through this website. Here are the some information about him. "신혁은 국내에서 생소한 작곡가이지만 지난 2009년 캐나다 출신 미국 팝 아이돌 스타 저스틴 비버와 공동프로듀싱한 곡 `원 레스 론리 걸`로 빌보드 차트 16위를 차지한 바 있다." List of Shin/Joombas work


 * Hi . Although it is Hyuk Shin's work, due to the fact that we have released a singer, we are trying to open up our record label company page. Many entertainments and record label companies have very similar or duplicate listings. We just want our audiences and fans to get a good idea of what kind of company we are. If All else fail could you please let me know in what ways could we make our company's page. thank you. Josephyangjoombas (talk) 22:34, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Our standards for inclusion on Wikipedia are that a topic has significant coverage in reliable, independent published sources. When I search online for "joombas music" I only get results for K-pop fan blogs, user-submitted directories, and sites like SoundCloud, which don't meet our criteria for reliable sources. I understand that you want to raise the profile of your business, but Wikipedia is a poor platform for that, and I urge you to reconsider your marketing strategy. Please see Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion, and please especially read WP:FINANCIALCOI - if you are being paid to promote your product on Wikipedia you are violating our Terms of Service and may be blocked from editing.
 * This topic is not my area of expertise, so I am adding some tags here to attract attention from editors who might know more about this topic and be of more help to you. I would suggest that since Joombas is related to Hyuk Shin that you can expand the section which already exists in that article, but I strongly advise you to read the links above to familiarize yourself with our site policies.
 * Not to scare you - I do hope you stick around, but please be careful. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I do not get paid to promote this company. Although I may be part of the company, I volunteerly did this work.. you could call in and ask our company boss. I was suprised by how amazing they were, I was hoping people could learn more about this company. I'm just an intern very in love with kpop and music industryJosephyangjoombas (talk) 23:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

If you guys wish to delete it, it's okay. i give upJosephyangjoombas (talk) 23:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Procedural note: just deleted all of his comments from this page. —C.Fred (talk) 00:35, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I restored the comments that had already been responded to. They can strike through if they want, but they're not entitled to blank discussion that others have joined. postdlf (talk) 00:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


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