Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordan Barker (magician)


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 01:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Jordan Barker (magician)

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PROD removed by creator without improving the article, Fails WP:BLP1E, lacks in depth coverage, only sources are of the "local boy does good" type in a local news report. Lacks in depth coverage to pass WP:GNG. LightGreenApple talk to me  22:42, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I am writing this to ask you to reconsider your proposal for the deletion on the page Jordan Barker (magician). The show 'officially amazing' in which the record is being showcased, will not be broadcast until late March, and the Guinness world record database is not updating the main page for highest throw of a playing card, until the show has been aired nationally. I wrote to Guinness about this and received this response -"Guinness World Records-Tracking Id:48894‏ Thank you for your enquiry. In order for the records we have filmed for our new TV show to have the biggest impact, we hold back the records from appearing on the website until the show airs. Once the TV show goes out, your record will be visible online. Congratulations once again on your Guinness World Records achievement. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY TO THIS EMAIL AS THIS COMES FROM AN UNMONITORED EMAIL ADDRESS. You can contact us and make an enquiry via: http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/register/login.aspx by logging in on the website, and selecting your claim ID number. There you can click on ‘Make an Enquiry’ or to find more information about the record breaking process whether that is: having an Adjudicator present at your record attempt, how to request the use of the Guinness World Records logo for your event, ordering extra certificates or application review time. Yours sincerely, Tom Ibison Guinness World Records"I'd like to point out that magician and card thrower, Rick Smith, Jr. has a wikipedia article focused on his world record achievement for the furthest throw of a playing card. I believe this therefore follows similar interest to Jordan Barker (magician) page as they follow similar causes in the public's interest, with both having gained 1 world record associated with card throwing, in similar detail. Therefore i feel my article is suitable for public use and should stay in the public domain. I hope you take this into account when reviewing the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thorpeparkdude (talk • contribs) 22:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E. Having a Guinness World Record is quite an accomplishment but there are literally thousands of them and this one for card throwing does not seem to have significant coverage or any lasting consequences to warrant a standalone article. Mkdw talk 23:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As stated, the record has been filmed and to be showcased as an episode of bbc's new show 'officially amazing' to be broadcast later in spring on the BBC, bringing large significant coverage to the article which I feel makes it worthy to be a standalone article. And just as much as card thrower [Rick Smith, Jr] whom has a stand alone article, is significant for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thorpeparkdude (talk • contribs) 23:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately this is not enough to establish enduring notability considering the fact that this person is only notable for one event in history, no matter how big or small. Mkdw talk 04:18, 29 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete for now. Perhaps a wave of coverage of this magician in reliable sources will materialize once the TV show is broadcast. Perhaps not. But at this time, the young man is not notable by Wikipedia's standards.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  23:18, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting that the article should be reconstructed after tv coverage? And that necessary info could not just be added to the article upon coverage date? Thorpeparkdude (talk) 23:21, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I am suggesting that this person does not meet our notability guideline for entertainers, which says that the person is notable if they have "had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. Has a large fan base or a significant 'cult' following. Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment". Certainly, I don't rule out this performer's notability in the future, but not now. Accordingly, the article should be deleted now.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  23:59, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Magic-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
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