Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordan Copp


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 14:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Jordan Copp
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Just about squeezes through WP:NFOOTBALL due to one sub appearance in the FL Trophy 4 years ago, but has spent most of the time since playing well into non league. No sign of WP:GNG JohnTombs48 (talk) 08:25, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2016 October 11.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 08:36, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2016 October 11.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 09:14, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone  18:26, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  18:28, 12 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - one substitute appearance in a minor cup game a number of years ago (to technically meet NFOOTY) is not enough when he comprehensively fails GNG. Some COMMONSENSE is needed here, and plenty of AFD precedent exists to say that barely passing NFOOTBALL is not enough when you fail GNG, see Oscar Otazu, Vyacheslav Seletskiy, Aleksandr Salimov, Andrei Semenchuk, Artyom Dubovsky, Cosmos Munegabe, Marios Antoniades, Scott Sinclair, Fredrik Hesselberg-Meyer, Matheus Eccard, Roland Szabó (2nd nomination), Metodija Stepanovski, Linas Klimavičius, Takumi Ogawa, Nicky Fish, Andrei Nițu, Daniel Oliveira Costa and Samuel Huber amongst others. GiantSnowman 18:38, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - in total agreement with the argument made by GS Spiderone  21:21, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per GS, a fifteen minute substitute appearance six years ago for a technical NFOOTY pass is nowhere near enough to override GNG. Player is currently two tiers below the level required by NFOOTY and there is clear precedent for deletion in similar cases where there is no clear GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:56, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - player passes WP:NFOOTY with his appearance for Plymouth. Guidelines and notifications are there for a reason, if not where is the line drawn and does it keep getting extended from 15 minutes to 16, to 17 to one full 90 minutes? If not, WP:NFOOTY needs an overhaul. --Jimbo[online] 16:01, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The line is drawn when it is obvious that the player fails GNG. NFOOTY is quite clear that players who have met the FPL criterion will "generally be considered notable", not that they are in all circumstances and the examples noted above are clear indication, if needed, that GNG trumps the subject-specific guideline. Fenix down (talk) 16:16, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The majority of League One & Two footballers fail WP:GNG. Outside of match reports and WP:ROUTINE coverage, the vast majority would fail WP:GNG but are saved because they play in the lower reaches and pass WP:FOOTY. --Jimbo[online] 16:26, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Not really sure what you're trying to say, you seem to be acknowledging this player fails GNG. If you think there are non-notable people with articles out there then you should feel free to nominate them. Fenix down (talk) 16:42, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes i agree but he is not really a league 2 player because he has never played in league 2! a sub appearance in a minor cup 5 years ago should not be enough for WP:NFOOTY in my opinion. Use WP:COMMONSENSE. He played as a substitute one Football league trophy game 5 years ago for a league 2 team that at the time had almost been liquidated and had barely any senior players. He was released 4 years ago and has spent most of that time playing at level 7 and below, and he is now in his mid-twenties and playing well into the non league system. I don't see how he needs an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnTombs48 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 14 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - whilst there are a number of references listed none of them are dealing with the subject to a significant degree. Eldumpo (talk) 09:12, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable footballer. Without coverage no reason to have an article on a non-notable player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:44, 21 October 2016 (UTC)


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