Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jorge Vargas González


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The result was   speedy keep. per WP:PERPETRATOR and WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:16, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Jorge Vargas González

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Non-notable mayor. The subject was the mayor of a town of about 12,000 residents. Only mayors of major cities are consider notable, unless they accomplished things to satisfy WP:BIO requirements in some way. He seems to have done nothing notable. He's apparently released a song, but it does not seem notable. The controversy surrounding him does not seem to be notable beyond its local area either. either way (talk) 01:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Maybe the person isn't notable outside Chile, but he was very notable when he took part of several controversies around the town, Pichilemu, where he was mayor. Additionally, his song 'Heredero de tu Amor' was very popular in 2004 Chile hasn't charts, but the article states it received high play in some Santiago radios. His controversies have received coverage from the most important newspapers in Chile   --Diego Grez let's talk 01:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC) This comment was copied over from user talk:HJ Mitchell on behalf of user:Diego Grez, who is currently under editing restrictions which prevent him from doing so himself.  HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   02:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep as per WP:PERPETRATOR. Criteria one states, "The perpetrator is notable for something beyond the crime itself." Mayors are usually considered inherently notable. That this mayor was the subject of two major controversies, arrested, placed in jail and removed from office makes him very notable. moreno oso (talk) 02:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, while I'm not opining due to my involvement as mentor to Diego Grez, speedy keep doesn't apply here since the nomination was made in good faith with a plausible rationale, I highly doubt the nominator is a sock of a banned editor and the apge being considered for deletion is not a policy, guideline or on the Main Page. Early AfD closures are usually done on the grounds of WP:SNOW, but it's way too early to be thinking about that. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   02:36, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I firmly believe "Speedy Keep" applies because you just supplied the reason: WP:SNOW. WP:PERPETRATOR is very specific in its first criteria and this mayor is probably their equivalent of their Rod Blagojevich. Had this happened in America, Vargas would be known from coast to coast. I've seen AfD's closed on just one vote and will supply a recent one as soon as I finish this edit and look it up. moreno oso (talk) 03:01, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Is this truly a high profile crime though? It seems like it was a blip on the radar at the time it occurred, and that is it.  Mayors are not inherently notable.  If this was the case, we'd have millions of articles on city administrators.  Mayors of large cities are considered notable generally, but his city is only 12,000 people, not exactly large.  either way (talk) 02:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Strong keep - Very notable subject in Chile. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 03:04, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * To quote from WP:POLITICIAN "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article." This person's notability seems to be made up of three events; 1) being mayor, 2) having false medical licenses, and 3) stealing money from the town. The singing career is not notable and fails WP:MUSIC greatly. So let's take the "significant coverage" aspect. Citation #1 is not significant, it is merely a national government website of the results of the election. I would expect a notable local politician to have a fair amount of coverage of the race and results in news media articles for "significant coverage" to be satisfied. Citation #2 and #3 are of a news media site and are good secondary sources. They relate to the charges of "embezzlement, falsification of public documents, fraud, incompatible negotiation, bribery, fraud and conspiracy" and the sentence handed down (541 days). Citation #4 is useful only to help establish notability of his career as a criminal but not his career as a singer. As noted, his singing career is wholly without note. Therefore, I feel that this is a marginal keep, and that it would be a firm keep if significant citations to back up his mayoral career and the election could be found in reliable sources.  fr33k man  -simpleWP-   05:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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