Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/José Cordero Sánchez


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete per WP:CSD. Bbb23 (talk) 19:05, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

José Cordero Sánchez

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This article appears to be a hoax. This article purports to be about a 23-year-old man who was appointed as the president of the airline Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela last August. However, sources cited in the article (such as ) identify the new president of the airline as José Rafael Cordero Urgelles (note the different matronymic from the subject of this article, Urgelles instead of Sánchez). There are no sources provided which clearly are referring to the same person who is the subject of this article. Two articles about the same person, es:José Ráfael Cordero and es:José Ráfael Cordero Sanchez, were deleted from the Spanish Wikipedia in the last two days, which suggests that information about him is no more sourceable in Spanish than it is in English. I recommend deletion. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:40, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like the nominated article is technically an A10 of yet another article, Jose Rafael Cordero, that and his sock farm has created, so I include in Metropolitan90's nomination and for the same reasons:
 * -- Sam Sailor Sing 20:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions. Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:47, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:51, 8 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom . On Spanish Wikipedia the bio was also created three times in December as es:José Cordero Sánchez and likewise speedy deleted, eventually as vandalism. Sam Sailor Sing 10:29, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete for notability and for all the reasons given above. Richard Avery (talk) 18:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with Sam that Jose Rafael Cordero should be deleted as well, as it is yet another article about the same person and containing the same claims, but translated into English less effectively than José Cordero Sánchez has been. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and salt for the following reasons: Communication with an admin on the Spanish Wikipedia made me look further into this BLP. All evidence seems to suggest that we are dealing with an individual who persistently recreates his autobio under multiple, slightly different names and from various accounts made for the purpose. On Spanish Wikipedia the bio has previously been deleted at least 34 times under 9 different article titles. On English Wikipedia I was able to find:
 * • Jose Rafael Cordero (previously deleted once)
 * • José Rafael Cordero (twice deleted: A7, A7/G11)
 * • José Rafael Cordero Sánchez (4 times: 4xA7)
 * • José Rafael Cordero Sanchez (twice: A7, A10)
 * • Jose Rafael Cordero Sanchez (5 times: A7, G5)


 * I suggest these titles, as well as José Cordero Sánchez salted.


 * On Spanish Wikipedia the bio has also been created under the following article titles, which we might want to consider salting as well:
 * • es:Jose Cordero Sanchez
 * • es:José Ráfael Cordero
 * • es:José Ráfael Cordero Sanchez


 * This maybe isn't the proper venue, but for completeness I notice that we also have Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/José Rafael Cordero Sánchez which predates several recreations. Sam Sailor Sing 14:41, 10 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I am going to disagree about the salting of at least some of the article titles. There does appear to be an actual airline president named José Rafael Cordero. However, he isn't the José Rafael Cordero Sánchez that these articles have been written about. So at a minimum, the non-"Sanchez" article titles should be kept un-salted. Also, any consideration of salting titles on Spanish Wikipedia will have to be done on Spanish Wikipedia and accomplished by one of their admins (bibliotecarios) -- we on English Wikipedia wouldn't be involved in that. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
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