Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/José Luis Gayá


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 22:43, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

José Luis Gayá

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:51, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following article for the same reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


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 * Delete both. They might become notable in the future, but they're too new now; as of yet, they are not notable.   dci  &#124;  TALK   07:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete both - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 10:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep both - There's no sense delete articles which they can be created months later, only for a point of view of some editors. tot-futbol (talk) 13:37, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't believe there's any evidence of POV-pushing in the AfD, I think it's merely a question of whether these two will indeed become notable in a few months - we have no knowledge that they will - and whether they are notable now - which they are not.  dci  &#124;  TALK   17:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete both In junior team, top level played at is reserve, not first team. Not at all a given a player will have a notable career from this level.Truth or consequences-2 (talk) 18:38, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete both None of them meet either WP:GNG or WP:ATHLETE according to soccerway, and even the infoboxes on both articles indicate that. Looks like someone decided to fill out all the redlinks in the Valencia II article. § FreeRangeFrog 21:01, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep both - the article states they played for Valencia in the cup. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 17:48, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Both per froggie. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 23:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete both - long-standing consensus is that you'll need to play in a match between two teams from fully pro leagues to pass WP:NFOOTBALL. These footballers played in a match against a team from Segunda B, which is not a fully pro league. There is also no indication that these footballers pass WP:GNG. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep both - Both of them have played for Valencia in the Spanish Cup. And they are so close to an impact in the first team. Creed7 (talk) 11:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Their appearances in the Cope del Rey were against lower division opposition, meaning it is not covered by WP:NSPORT, and what may happen in the future has no bearing on notability whatsoever. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:27, 9 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:43, 10 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete both as failing WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL... why was this renominated when one of the keep votes failed WP:CRYSTAL, and the other two didn't confer notability - as stated, it was a cup match against a lower-division team? Lukeno94 (talk) 09:03, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Move back to the creaters sadbox Yet to make a pro league debut, but obviously could easily be done this year on notes. I sugest returning the articles to the creators sandbox for now. Govvy (talk) 20:10, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete both - They did play for in a Cup match, but it wasn't against a fully pro club. Therefore, they fail WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. – Michael (talk) 19:47, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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