Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/José Marmolejos


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirected already. to the appropriate list article.  Sandstein  12:37, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

José Marmolejos

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Non-notable minor league baseball player. Fbdave (talk) 23:58, 8 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep for now. It's the baseball offseason and it's likely some team will sign him, at which point the page can be turned back into a redirect and the information therein added to their minor league players page. I see no need to rush this. -Kudzu1 (talk) 02:36, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:39, 9 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Strong delete Wikipedia has inclusion criteria not exclusion criteria. We create articles after people become notable, we do not create place holder articles and then delete them when the person is notable. There is a major problem that the year with the most articles of people born that year is 1989. This sort of presentist bias is created by having articles on people who are not yet notable. We need to remove this with total speed.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Drafting Instead of deleting, moving it to draft would be a better option. As independent sources are available. And when it will be notable enough, will be moved to mainspace. Rocky 734 (talk) 02:45, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 09:57, 17 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:34, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm going to withhold my !vote until I can do more research, but 's argument that somehow the fact that he was born in 1989 makes this article problematic is completely absurd and should be ignored by the closer. I don't know what his vendetta against people born in that year is, but regardless, it's inappropriate. Smartyllama (talk) 15:58, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * My argument is not that he is unnotable for his birth year, you are deliberately misrepresenting what I said. My argument is that if 1989 is the leading birth year for people with biographies, our whole process of creating, monitoring and preserving articles is flawed. This article should be deleted because the subject lacks the neccesary coverage in secondary sources to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:02, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * How is birth year in any way relevant to notability? Some year has to be the most common. Why shouldn't it be 1989? Smartyllama (talk) 19:42, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll also note that the subject of this article was born in 1993, suggesting JPL has not even bothered to read the article. Smartyllama (talk) 19:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Re-direct Just signed a minor league deal with the Mariners. Notable enough for that page-- Yankees10 18:52, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect is the standard and appropriate outcome in cases such as this one. Lepricavark (talk) 03:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.