Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jose Perez (American football)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) BusterD (talk) 22:37, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Jose Perez (American football)

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Subject was just cut today by the Miami Dolphins and fails both WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT.  Giants27 ( T  |  C )  22:27, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment. Have not evaluated to decide whether it's enough, but he has received some non-trivial coverage in the mainstream media.  See, e.g., The Republic, Sun Sentinel, Sun Sentinel (same as 1 but different paper), San Diego Union-Tribune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbl62 (talk • contribs)
 * The first three are the same story...  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:20, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep I like that WP:NSPORTS was corrected so that preseason football games don't count towards automatic notability. He also doesn't have an MLB appearance, so he doesn't meet notability that way. However, I feel that the write ups on him are enough to meet GNG. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:05, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak delete – Even though the first three articles are the same, the base article definitely counts toward notability. The San Diego Union-Tribune article seems to be as much about the team's defense than about Perez himself, as he isn't the only player it seems to be about. I'm not quite convinced yet that this meets WP:GNG; it's the eqivalent of having 1½ articles about him. If another article could be found about Perez in particular, I'd lean toward keeping this, but I couldn't find anything on top of the sources mentioned above.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 15:16, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Switching to weak keep. The amount of coverage found down there is impressive, and several of the articles are clearly about Perez. The only caveat I'd mention is that the new stories are all locally based sources from the San Diego area. Still, I now think there's just enough on this player to squeeze past GNG.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 21:35, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. After researching a bit more, there appears to be enough non-trivial coverage to support a stand-alone article under WP:GNG.  His college football career at SDSU as well as his unusual journey from professional baseball to college football generated sufficient coverage to satisfy notability standards. The August 2011 article from the Sun-Sentinel about Perez's career path was sufficiently interesting that it was picked up and reprinted in newspapers across the country.  Here are some of the articles I found that appear to support a finding of notability: (1) "Jose Perez goes from Yankee pinstripes to Dolphins aqua and orange", Sun Sentinel, August 10, 2011; (2) same article as (1), published by The Republic in Indiana, August 2011, (3) same article as (1), published by the Georgia News, August 2011, (4) same article as (1) available on the McClatchy-Tribune Regional News, August 2011, (5) "Corner could be the place for Perez," The San Diego Union-Tribune, August 19, 2009, (6) "Secondary route is just fine for ex-baseball player Perez," North County Times, October 23, 2010, (7) "Perez at Home in Aztec Secondary," La Prensa San Diego, October 3, 2008, (8) "|+Perez+may+go+with+Yanks%2C+not+Aztecs+football&pqatl=google Oceanside standout seems to be favoring pin stripes: Perez may go with Yanks, not Aztecs football," The San Diego Union-Tribune, June 6, 2003, (9) "Perez commits to Aztecs," The San Diego Union-Tribune, November 6, 2002, (10) "Oceanside's Perez switches gears, sports," North County Times, August 18, 2006, (11) "Aztecs 1-on-1 With Jose Perez"(video), 619 Sports, August 28, 2010, (12) "SDSU's Perez likely to miss Utah game," San Diego Union-Tribune, November 16, 2010 ; (13) "Perez Picked to Start at Corner for Aztecs," La Prensa San Diego, September 4, 2009, (14) "SDSU turns corner with McFadden, Perez combo," The San Diego Union-Tribune,  November 6, 2010, (15) "Yeatman, Perez agree to deals," North County Times, July 26, 2011, (16) Perez stars for Oceanside in both football, baseball" (photo), North County Times, October 22, 2002. Cbl62 (talk) 18:14, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep After I added some of Cbl62's sources to the article and also looking for more sources myself, I am mildly concerned that we are limited to 4 sources: the nice August 10, 2010 writeup, the La Prensa San Diego article, and coverage from the San Diego newspapers The San Diego Union-Tribune and North County Times. I'm counting sources based on GNG: "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability."  The concern is any potential bias of the limited sources are magnified by its overuse in the article. Neutrality is a big reason multiple non-trivial sources are needed so viewpoints can be balanced. Still, his talent in two sports and his playing multiple positions in football is notable. I will presume that other sources can eventually be found to meet GNG, but have no prejudice for future AfD nominations if he never plays professionally and additional sources are not identified. —Bagumba (talk) 23:20, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Satisfies WP:GNG in lieu of the neutered WP:NSPORTS.  Agent Vodello OK, Let's Party, Darling! 15:40, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cbl62. Rlendog (talk) 19:58, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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