Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph D. Kucan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation herein.) North America1000 07:46, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Joseph D. Kucan

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Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) It had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search. A redirect to Kane (Command & Conquer)—his most notable role—would suffice, if it's even necessary (not sure that even Kane is independently notable from the series). czar 19:14, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions.  czar  19:15, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:41, 29 November 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * In light of the light response, a redirect to Kane (Command & Conquer) will suffice czar  08:35, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I think this is one of those articles where we're going to disagree. I'm leaning toward keep.  I found this article from The Wall Street Journal which discusses his career as a video game actor.  I know some people dislike the idea of using interviews to establish notability, but I think it's legitimate.  There quite a few of them out there, such as  from VideoGamer.com,  from GameSpot,  from Eurogamer, and  from Game Informer.  Reviews of the C&C video games often seem to critique his performance as Kane.  For example:  from GameSpot,  from Maximum PC, and  from Retro Gamer.  There also seem to be more on Google Books, but they're not easily accessible.  I realize a review that says "Joe Kucan is great" isn't exactly the greatest source in the world, but it's the same kind of source that I'd use to bolster notability for a film actor after I found something like the WSJ article to anchor the bio.  Finally, his theater career seems to have made local papers, like  from Las Vegas Weekly.  The other theater reviews I found weren't much better than trivial mentions, but I gave up a bit quickly after not finding  much of substance in the few Vegas-area papers I knew of.  Someone who was willing to put more effort into it could probably dig up better sources.  I'm neither a C&C fan nor a theater fan, so my enthusiasm in this area is limited.  I'm sure someone will say that local theater reviews are worthless to establish notability, but I disagree that they're entirely worthless.  Some of the Vegas papers have a respectable circulation. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:43, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't count blurbs like "The B-list actors give adequate performances, but it’s Joe Kucan’s reprisal of his role as Kane that sells the show. His over-the-top performance sets the perfect tone for the action and TNT-powered gameplay." towards significant coverage, though it's certainly worth mentioning in the game's article. The WSJ source is a good find. My issue with the interviews is less their format than that they're really about the game and series and less about the individual. If there was more coverage of his career, perhaps prompted by his prior roles, then we would know he was famous as an actor. The theater roles are covered by local media. This said, there could be an article here if someone bothered to write it. I'd be concerned for now about how this BLP sat with unsourced information for however many years. I think it's fine to post the sources and hope that someone fixes it but the pragmatist in me thinks it's unlikely and that the sources would be better served expanding a section about him in the main series article until there is summary style justification for splitting out. czar  18:06, 13 December 2016 (UTC)


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