Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Dominic Kinsella


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 21:23, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Joseph Dominic Kinsella

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I'm tentative on this but offer it up for general consideration: There's no notability criterion for rowers, and perhaps there should be. This seems to be a good test case as the subject's only claim to notability is that he rowed in the 1984 Boat Race (i.e. Oxford v. Cambridge on the Thames). Some other members of the crews that day have articles but usually they went on to Olympic participation (or, in two cases, became Goldman Sachs partners). Fiachra10003 (talk) 19:05, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

KEEP : Here are some reasons I think the entry should be kept:

- approximately 7 million people watch the boat race in the UK each year. It is further broadcast to approximately 120 countries where it is watched by an additional c.200 million viewers. The Boat Race would not be very interesting without the crew members all of whom contribute to the strength of the boat and are equally important to the success of the event

- surely more information is better than less given that the crew members are already listed on wikipedia (List of Cambridge University Boat Race crews), unless wikipedia needs to cap the amount of information it can hold?

- most crew members go on to achieve further notable things in life. I do not know if Kinsella has done so but, if he has, a wikipedia entry will prompt additional information to be added to the entry

MJT21 (talk) 09:37, 9 September 2014 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 00:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete as it stands, the article reads that he participated in one boat race and went to school. Nothing else.  Maybe there is more out there about this person.  However, I note that the article creator has also been creating a number of recent bios of prior alumni from this school. Given demonstrated capability of producing more information for these short biographies, I don't think it is the case in this instance.  Then again, I am often wrong on these AfD discussions recently, after a seven year WP hiatus.  &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 04:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Apologies if this is not the case but, on an initial search. it would appear that User:Fiachra10003 does not exist? MJT21 (talk) 19:14, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * You have already voted Keep, so to avoid confusion I have struck out your previous Keep. I don't know where you are searching, but the links in the signature of the nomination pointed to User:Fiachra10003 and to User talk:Fiachra10003; the user's contributions are at Special:Contributions/Fiachra10003, linked from the page history, and at the foot of the contributions page are the usual links to details of the account. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:03, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Goodness gracious me, I've seen some low, low tactics used in Articles for Deletion discussions, but I've never before seen someone suggest that a nominator doesn't exist!  Wikipedio, ergo sum ;) Fiachra10003 (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete: it may indeed be true that millions watch the boat race, but that's not a sufficient argument to keep this page. It's a Knockout was watched by millions, but we don't allow pages for each of the contestants. The boat race itself is worthy of a page, but the individual participants, many of whom never reach international level, are not.  Delete. &mdash; Bristolbottom   talk  18:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D u s t i *Let's talk!* 01:47, 22 September 2014 (UTC)




 * Delete and move to close. Even without my contribution, three editors provided policy-based reasons for deletion and one (the creator) opined for deletion on entirely non-policy grounds. Not sure how much more consensus is needed but I'm happy to oblige - the subject doesn't inherit notability for his single appearance at a notable event, doesn't pass any of our Special Notability Guidelines for sportspeople and obviously doesn't pass WP:GNG.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 12:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails to meet WP:GNG and nothing to show any notable accomplishments as an athlete.Mdtemp (talk) 18:27, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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