Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph R. Rios III


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was deleted. Unanimous consensus to delete after article creator moved content to List of cases of police brutality. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 16:50, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Joseph R. Rios III

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Originally deleted as G10. Violates WP:BLP and WP:1E, and is heavily slanted against Mr. Rios. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 09:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I note the original speedy deletion of this article which to my mind was correct on the basis of a violation of WP:BLP and WP:1E and that this article has now been given a chance through this process - nevertheless in my opinion it should be deleted at this time, as per the nomination.-- VS talk 09:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't use abbreviations most people are not familiar with. "WP:BLP" means wikipedia rules concerning biographies of living people, "WP:1E" means rules on notability. I see that the person may not be notable. However, the event made the media around the world: (google news shows how often he is mentioned in electronic media.) Furthermore, currently the information is included at Passaic, New Jersey, which I do not think it is the right place because it is just a coincidence that it happened right there. It would certainly not be covered in the article about New York City, had it happened there. I did not mean to slant it, just repeated what can be read everywhere in the news, but the video is pretty straightforward, a man who does not even resist gets beaten. The additional information that he is 49 years old and mentally disabled makes it more of a scandal, and the fact that he is an Afro-American and that previous attacks on Afro-Americans have led to uprisings makes it newsworthy around the world.  Keep or find a better article where to include it. Xodó (talk) 09:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I now found the right article where to include it: List of cases of police brutality. Everyone ok with that? I hope there won't be riots which would make the event more notable. Xodó (talk) 06:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:BLP1E and WP:NOT. See also Ronnie Holloway about the same incident, also at AfD here. Even if they were combined into a single article about the incident, it would fail WP:NOT: "Wikipedia considers the historical notability of persons and events." This sort of incident is regrettable but not uncommon, and it is not historically notable. JohnCD (talk) 10:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, textbook WP:BLP1E. Will anyone remember this in two years' time? Stifle (talk) 10:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 13:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete For the same reasons as said above. This is just a news piece, and is not notable no matter how many recent news stories it happens to show up in. As an aside, the person who brought this to DRV did so by claiming that it gets lots of gnews hits, but actually used a ridiculously broad search term; with a proper search term it gets a grand total of 4 hits. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 14:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Clear delete for reasons above. As stated before - even if his name appears in 100 news stories (counting largely identical article in different media sources as somehow distinct) this article does not satisfy our criteria for inclusion. TheGrappler (talk) 19:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for showing me how to include google news searches here. I had already asked for that as you can see here. Had you looked up the source code for my link you would have seen that I had given the full name and only wikipedia cut off everything after the first space because generally after a space the description of the link follows. I had not been aware of the possibility to use %20. for a space, I tried _ as is used in wikipedia but that does not work for google news. There are now several hundreds of pages on the net mentioning "Joseph R Rios" and 14 topics at google news, one each from the main German and the main Swiss news magazine, one from a big Turkish one, one from the Czech Republic, and of the other 28 which to me seem to be all US articles, 13 are distinct, some of them from major sources (CNN, Fox, ABC). Xodó (talk) 05:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails WP:BIO. Unfortunately there is lots of violence in the world, every day. This single event is not notable. Johnuniq (talk) 04:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, this is no single event. In the media it is several times compared with the case of Rodney King, the police beating of whom led to the Los Angeles riots of 1992 about which our article informs that "53 people died during the riots and thousands more were injured." Xodó (talk) 06:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * We're not seeing any rioting over this. JoshuaZ (talk) 23:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as BLP1E. Eusebeus (talk) 12:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment It's SNOWing and any passing admin can delete this now...7 editors in good standing have already given arguments for deletion, and the only person contesting is the article's creator. I won't delete it myself because I participated in the discussion above, but the consensus to delete is clear. Plus, the content has already been merged to List of cases of police brutality. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 13:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As I had written above several hours before this comment was made, I do no longer argue for keeping as I have found an article where the content fits better. I had written that I was looking for one right from the start. Please take care to understand the thoughts of those you think you disagree with before you write in a way that could be interpreted as condescending. Xodó (talk) 22:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete as the perfect example of a BLP1E article. --Stormie (talk) 09:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.