Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Sinagra


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. per consensus and as a poorly sourced BLP. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:52, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Joseph Sinagra

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Non-notable person. Fails WP:POLITICIAN: he was never elected to the House of Reps, and being one of six people on the council of a borough with a population of under 2,000 certainly does not satisfy criterion #2. Nearly all GNews hits are extremely trivial - most of them aren't even about him but rather about various other people with the same name, and many of the others are his own letters to the editor. JerZee, who is almost entirely responsible for this article, appears to be the subject, making this a vanity page. Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 22:29, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. All the Google Books hits are only about two other Joe Sinagras: a patrolman and a fisherman. One opinion article in the Burlington Free Press |newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s mentions the politician Sinagra in passing—no focus on him. Self-published sources do not help at all. Binksternet (talk) 22:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:30, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:30, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Who is to decide that population alone is to determine whether a person is a politician or not. (The population is over 2600 currently) The fact is they have held office, and holding that office for 10 years more than qualifies that individual as a politician. This candidate has been listed on wikipedia since 2005 and hasn't been an issue. The Sinagra mentioned in the Burlington Press was not mentioned on Wikipedia because he did not meet the criteria for Wikipedia and they would not accept his listing when it was posted. At the time Joseph Sinagra was listed in Wikipedia all rules and qualifications for the criteria at that time were met to be listed in Wikipedia. If any criteria at that time was not met, there would not be a listing of Joseph Sinagra to start with. How is it after all these years the listing is now being contested? Is it because this is an election year and an opponent or party is now looking to eliminate any opposition? Anyone who runs for office on the local, state, or federal level is considered a politician, regardless of whether they were elected or not. The fact that the Burlington Press acknowledges Joe Sinagra in passing as mentioned, is he is recognized as a politician. The Sinagra in the Burlington press was the politican's brother who passed away and the other is a fisherman has no bearing on the wikipedia listing of the politican Joseph Sinagra. JerZee (talk) 14:44, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Joe Sinagra is listed as a politician.
 * Of course Sinagra is a politician. There is no question of that. However, he does not meet Wikipedia standards for notability. Being mentioned in passing is not enough. Binksternet (talk) 14:55, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

In regards to your statement "being one of six people on the council of a borough with a population of under 2,000 certainly does not satisfy criterion." If being elected to a council in a town of 20,000 people would it then be considered to meet the criteria? Regardless of population, the fact a person is nominated to run and then elected to office should be more than enough to qualify them as a politician regardless of what office they have held. As Council President for 7 out of the 10 years, it is similar to acting Mayor. There are many listings on Wikipedia listing Mayors of various towns along with separate listings of individual Council people who have never run for any other office. Does that mean they are scheduled for deletion? JerZee (talk) 15:26, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - I didn't see any links on Google and Yahoo that could help the article biographically. SwisterTwister   talk  20:49, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG, needs independent coverage. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:08, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, doesn't appear to meet WP:POLITICIAN guidelines for notability.-- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:47, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
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