Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Wheaton


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The result was redirect to Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Joseph Wheaton

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Completely unsourced biography of a person notable primarily as sergeant at arms in the House of Representatives. This is certainly a role that would qualify him for an article if he could be reliably sourced as the subject of enough coverage about him to clear WP:GNG, but it's not an automatic inclusion freebie that guarantees him an unsourced article in perpetuity — it makes him a civil servant, not a legislator, so it's no WP:NPOL pass. But this has literally existed since 2005 without ever actually having had a real reference added to it but for a now-deadlinked primary source namecheck of his existence in a list of the sergeants at arms on Congress's own website. Per Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives, more of his successors don't have articles than do, and even most of the minority who do have articles have other claims of notability besides sergeant at arms per se — I just spotchecked three articles at random, and all three were also actual congressmen or state-level officials at other times in their careers. So I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better access to US history referencing than I've got can salvage it with better sourcing, but an article that's been this bad for twelve years now can't wait anymore. Bearcat (talk) 05:10, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives. As the inaugural holder, he's certainly a reasonable redirect to the office and the list of holders. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:22, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete this postion is not in any way one of legislative authority, and so does not make the holder a notable politician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:59, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives per Bushranger. PhilKnight (talk) 01:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives per Bushranger. Although I have a feeling this article was created with the intent or design to make every name on the table in that article to be Wikilinked. Operator873 CONNECT 07:39, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


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