Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josh Allen–Patrick Mahomes rivalry


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:58, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Josh Allen–Patrick Mahomes rivalry

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The article is about a non-existant rivalry between two players who don't face off against one another. They have only played 4 games against one another at this point. The only other NFL player rivalry page I've seen is Tom Brady–Peyton Manning rivalry, in which there were 17 games played by two all-time greats. Fails WP:GNG and may be WP:TOOSOON. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Cbl62 (talk) 15:45, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and per WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. Many sources describe a "budding rivalry" which may or may not evolve into something further.  A Google search shows "budding rivalries" between several other pairs of quarterbacks that never developed.  Potentially draftify as a WP:ATD.  The "rivalry" may or may not develop, but that would be at least five years down the road. As a comparison, the Brady-Manning rivalry article was created in 2014, after the two QBs already had 15 meetings including four in the playoffs. Brad Hat (talk) 15:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Kansas.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:18, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination and WP:TOOSOON. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 17:05, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, probably WP:TOOSOON. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * delete In addition to good reasons above, I'm going to stick this one with WP:IAR because not having this article would make Wikipedia better. Perhaps enthusiastic editors could try another wiki better suited for this content.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:44, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing particularly notable about this rivalry. Sources are just a comparison of two young top tier QBs, which is pretty WP:ROUTINE in terms of sports coverage. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 19:43, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or draftify. Interestingly enough, this article seems to suggest the possibility of an overall rivalry between the Bills and the Chiefs, dating back to the 1960's, however, the way the present article is currently constructed in focusing solely on the modern era of just Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes, it is simply WP:TOOSOON to tell if this will end up being something like the Brady-Manning rivalry or not. No prejudice against recreation at a later date if this rivalry develops further and additional sources supporting the concept of a rivalry between these two players come along. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:00, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The rivalry between the Bills and Chiefs does have some coverage, but it's already covered in Buffalo Bills. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and draftify. While this page is promising, I also agree it is WP:TOOSOON. Though Allen and Mahomes aren't divisional rivals, they may still play each other quite a bit if both their teams stay on top of their divisions, to answer 's concern. But as many of you pointed out, we don't know this yet, so this may violate WP:CRYSTAL. --WuTang94 (talk) 21:08, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm sorry if I offend my fellow members of the Bills Mafia and/or my city, but I think it's a bit too early to cover this. Let's wait a while (1-2 years), and see what happens. But even then, that might not be necessary. With free agency and all these radical changes being made to team rosters, who knows what could happen next time these two young guys meet? Maybe it won't be a rivalry anymore. Let's delete and see what happens. Bottom line. BubbaDaAmogus (talk) 02:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I can recreate this as "promising draft" if the page is ultimately deleted. That way we can hold onto it as a draft in the event that Allen/Mahomes takes off like Brady/Manning did, or if it fizzles out like Allen/Darnold did I can request a "speedy delete" of the draft. WuTang94 (talk) 05:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment... this looks like a blizzard. SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 14:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


 * If no further comments by EOD today I can volunteer to move the page to the draftspace. Any opposed to that? WuTang94 (talk) 15:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.