Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joshua Barrett Madden


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Sandstein  09:38, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Joshua Barrett Madden

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This article does not seem to meet WP:GNG and falls under WP:NOTMEMORIAL. A tragic loss of a young soldier, but not encyclopedic.

Additionally, this article was created by banned user: Billy Hathorn during a block evasion. EricSerge (talk) 18:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment- if its the creation of a banned user, it should be eligible for speedy deletion under WP:G5, so tagged. Umbralcorax (talk) 18:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's ineligible for G5 as others have done non-trivial work on it. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:19, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * My bad, apologies. Umbralcorax (talk) 19:40, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Tragic but fails WP:SOLDIER....William 22:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. A soldier killed in a war. No particular reason why he should be any more notable than the millions of others who have died in war. -- Necrothesp (talk) 20:53, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Userfy; this article appears to be very well done, and the subject appears to have received significantly coverage by multiple reliable sources, and therefore should pass WP:GNG, as do many other fallen American servicemembers, such as SSG Doria, SSG Mora, and PFC Zawaydeh (just to name a few). That being said although the subject passes GNG, the subject is notable due to a single event, their death, and thus many do not believe that the subject will have lasting notability (see WP:EFFECT & WP:NTEMP). Furthermore, there is WP:NOTMEMORIAL & WP:SOLDIER; as NOTMEMORIAL is a policy, it supersedes GNG, and thus the argument for the article to be deleted is often made. All that being said, as this article is well put together, and the subject passes GNG, IMHO, I am of the opinion that the article should be Userfied to the sandbox of the primary editor of the article. If it can be later shown that the subject is notable for more than just their unfortunate passing, or that their notability is not just in passing, than the article can be brought back after improvement and reviewed into the main article space. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:00, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment- Primary editor of the article is a sockpuppet of Billy Hathorn, who is indefinitely blocked. EricSerge (talk) 19:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete with the utmost respect to the family of the subject. Fails WP:SOLDIER and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Trusilver  06:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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