Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joshua Grommen


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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 00:21, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Joshua Grommen

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Contested PROD. Concern was the the article Fails WP:NFOOTBALL. PROD was contested on the grounds that he plays for an international soccer team that is of great notabolity. (sic) However, he has not played for his country's national team or in a fully pro league, nor has he received sufficient coverage to meet WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:57, 5 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 14:47, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

angeljessie97 Almost every other player in that team has a wiki page, they're at the same level as him, why should he not have his own page as the rest of them do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angeljessie97 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Other stuff exists is not a valid argument for keeping an article. That being said, the reason the others aren't up for deletion is that they have all played for the Filipino national team. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 10:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Comment, he has played in the fully professional Philippines Football League today against Kaya FC. I requested the inclusion of the PFL in the list at WP:FPL and afaik, there is consensus in a previous discussion that the league will undoubtedly be fully pro but the only reason for the league's non-inclusion at that time was the games was yet to be played then.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 12:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - as per Hariboneagle927's comment I too believe that the Philippines Football League today is professional, however as well I believe it would be best if the article passed WP:NFOOTY first. This may simply qualify as WP:TOOSOON and if deleted can be restarted once the PFL is recognized as fully professional on Wikipedia or that the subject makes his debut for the national team. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 04:22, 7 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played or managed senior international football nor played or managed in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Currently there is not consensus that this league is fully professional. Clear steps have been taken by the league to increase the level of professionalism iwthin the league, but it is not clear whether this is sufficient to indicate full professionalism. Fenix down (talk) 09:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Spiderone  17:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


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