Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josip on deck


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Full of dubious statements, complete lack of sufficient reliable-source coverage to demonstrate notability ~ mazca  talk 00:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Josip on deck

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Delete Unknown, unsigned rapper with three mixtapes. The claims to notability are hard to believe. For instance, the idea that a rapper would be unsigned despite being approached with "plenty of major deals" since 2009 is not credible. It's also claimed that his YouTube received over a million views but YouTube says 400K and even that achievement is suspect since the article later boasts of "creating thousands of profiles using hacking techniques". Note also that this is clearly an autobiography and in fact, Josip on deck's website included a link to his Wikipedia article an hour after its creation. Pichpich (talk) 11:22, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:37, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Comment Obsolete standard in today's music industry record deals are no longer indicia of notabiltiy.They are a sufficient but not a necessary criteria to establish notability. This is with respect to the above remark by Pich, to wit: For instance, the idea that a rapper would be unsigned Also, IMO Wikipedia is demographically structured that POV might creep into near-unanimous decision=making processes to the extent that the ownership and distribution of late-model laptops may reflect a given, contingent distribution pattern. For instance, in Compton, or in Bedford Stuyvesant, where many par labels exist in a mixtape underground, access to public computers in libraries and colleges may be subject to overcrowding, thus limiting access of those populations to the infrastructure required to express their side of the NPOV equation. Nuff said. Bard गीता 18:31, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Plenty of unreliable sources. Tb hotch * ۩  ۞ 02:51, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as article appears to be a vanity page, and of the dubious claims made in the article per nom.   ArcAngel    (talk) ) 15:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I get what everyone's saying, but it could be useful to have an article just for if this guy ever gets big. It needs lots more sources though.  Rcsprinter  Gimme a message  20:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm unable to find any significant coverage for this person in reliable sources. Subject does not yet appear to meet WP:MUSICBIO.  Gongshow  Talk 00:55, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: This article is the sole contribution of the new editor, which in itself suggests to me a possible COI concern. The references used are not third party sources. And lastly, I must mention the issue of capitalization. While this issue could be addressed with a simple page move, if this person was notable, odds are their article creator would have titled the article "Josip on Deck" or "Josip On Deck" instead of an obviously rushed "Josip on deck." Thus, it seems as if this article is more of a "getting the word out" piece rather than anything meant to improve our encyclopedia project. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 09:04, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lacks indicia of notability.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * They are sufficient but not necessary: I fully agree and I never disputed that in my rationale. However, it's highly improbable that a young kid with big dreams would turn down multiple offers from major record companies. In other words, my point is that the article is full of bs. The article's claims of notability are fabricated and there's no indication on the web that genuine non-trivial coverage exists to make up for that. Nowadays, this wouldn't be the case for an underground rapper with a sizable community of fans. Pichpich (talk) 19:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
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