Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josneidy Castillo


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The result was delete. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 22:05, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Josneidy Castillo

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Sorry to waste everyone's time, but this is clearly a case of WP:BIO1E, but the article's creator sees it a bit differently.  Onel 5969  TT me 14:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Jamez42 (talk) 14:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions. Jamez42 (talk) 14:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete – Under One Event. Only claim to Notability is their participation in one situation.  And sorry to say, this same situation happens 1,000(s) of times a day.  We are not a Newspaper — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoessss (talk • contribs)
 * Delete – A single act does not make one notable. Consider salting.-- Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 14:55, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep or rename, at the very least merge, as well as oppose to salting. – WP:BIO1E doesn't state that a subject is not notable for one event, it says that "it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both" and the event per se does not have an article. The article was blanked and turned into a redirect to Marvinia Jiménez, another biography. WP:SINGLEEVENT also says that if an individual plays a major role in a minor event, the name of the person should redirect to the article on the incident.


 * WP:WHATABOUTX is an argument that should be avoided in deletions. Subject meets WP:GNG, and references 3, 4, 5 and 9 are only about Josneidy. This incident isn't one among "1,000" that happen a day. What do you mean? In Venezuela or worldwide? The beating happened during a relevant episode in Venezuela, the 2014 protests, and is symbolic of their police brutality, the arbitrary detentions and their impunity. Marvinia and Josneidy are named in reports of NGOs such as Human Rights Watch and regional bodies such as the Organization of American States. These aren't just numbers among the, for example, 289 cases of torture reported, these are names and persons that have received significant coverage. Josneidy has also been covered in books such as Testimonios de la Represión by Carlos Javier Arencibia (ISBN 978-980-408-038-8) and La muerte tiene muchos rostros by Juan Carlos Sosa Azpúrua (ISBN 9789807329019). The article isn't only about the beating, it's about how Josneidy hasn't been arrested and has been promoted, and I should mention that the OAS report is not only about just human rights violations, but about a pattern that the panel found that constitutes crimes against humanity, reason why it was sent to the International Criminal Court.


 * Even though this isn't about notability, lastly I should note that the article was created as part of the Women in Red iniciative to reduce Wikipedia's gender gap, so the article shouldn't be hastily deleted. --Jamez42 (talk) 16:28, 29 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - WP:BIO1E event and already covered in Marvinia Jiménez (on whom 1E might be called as well - but has a bit more coverage). I'll note that coverage of this event is lacking in 2014 Venezuelan protests though one might argue that this is UNDUE there (this was photographed - however 43 people we killed, 5285 injured, and 3689 arrested - so focusing on one arrest+beating might not be DUE).Icewhiz (talk) 06:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Just for the record: Around three beatings during the protests were recorded on tape and are the most emblematic. The second one happened in San Cristóbal, while the third one in Caracas. The former two were shown in a video at the OAS by María Corina Machado back in 2014; Marvinia has also been interviewed several times, like shown in the video. Many of the 43 deaths were not caught on tape or got as much coverage, even less the thousands of injured, and the rest of the abuses are known because of testimonies, such as the torture during imprisonment. Given that this is possibly the only case of a beating in 2014 where both the officer and the victim are identified, I'm more inclined to ask for a rename or at least a redirect. --Jamez42 (talk) 14:06, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I could possibly see a redirect to Marvinia Jiménez - though you do have BLPCRIME concerns regarding Josneidy Castillo who has not been convicted of anything. I do think that the incident is already covered in Jiménez (otherwise - I would've swung merge more easily - as it is however we have two 1Eish individuals for the same event). There might be some scope for development of the filmed incidents on 2014 Venezuelan protests (or on a spinoff of Media portrayal of 2014 Venezuelan protests).Icewhiz (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Just finished reading BLPCRIME, I thought that being charged with a crime was enough and that a conviction wasn't needed. I'll take care about it in the future. --Jamez42 (talk) 14:18, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, not notable per WP:BIO1E; trivial. Kierzek (talk) 14:01, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIO1E. \\\Septrillion:- &#8237;  10 Eleventeen 20:22, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


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