Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Journal of Analytic Theology


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Oliver D. Crisp.  Sandstein  18:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Journal of Analytic Theology

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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable, relatively new, journal. Not indexed in any selective databases. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG." DePRODded with reason "im contesting deletion since several editors per the history https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Journal_of_Analytic_Theology&action=history have tried improving, copyediting, sourcing, if you still feel otherwise you may renominate for deletion, thank you" (one of the stranger de-PROD reasons I have encountered, this goes for 99% of all PRODded articles...). No changes to the article were made, so PROD reason still stands. Hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 12:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 13:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 13:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep - this journal might be important for those in the academic study of Theology, although I do admit the article needs extension (it is currently stub status). Vorbee (talk) 14:15, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * keep per Vorbee rationale--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: and : "it's useful" is not a valid "keep" argument. If your !vote is not policy/guideline-based, it is wont to be ignored by the closing admin. Please explain therefore how this article meets any of our inclusion criteria. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 16:11, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The Keep !votes could use notability-related justifications. However a relisting was in order due to a balance between relisting and deletion.
 * Delete, complete fail of WP:NJOURNALS, indexed nowhere selective, barely a smattering of citations, no independent sources. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:42, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Oliver D. Crisp, one of the founders of the journal, where it is mentioned. This looks like a solid academic journal put out by the University of Notre Dame. But it seems WP:TOOSOON for an article, as I could not find it in our usual selective databases and ATLA yielded no results. It is a plausible search term, however, and basic facts (such as existence) are verifiable, so a redirect seems reasonable. -- 04:59, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Mark viking. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 17:08, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment according to WorldCat, the journal is in 60 libraries. Its papers appear to be cited in journals such as Scientia et Fides (currently a redlink) or Open Theology, both open-access papers in its field; an argument to keep based on those citations would be circular. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 17:47, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 09:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the editor as suggested.  DGG ( talk ) 20:51, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.