Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Journal of Energy Challenges and Mechanics


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Journal of Energy Challenges and Mechanics

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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable, somewhat amateurishly-produced relatively new journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG.". Article dePRODded by article creator who on the talk page and in edit summaries claims that this meet NJournals#2 by adding a few citations to some articles published in this journal. However, articles from notable journals will be cited at a minimum hundreds of times, so the handful of citations shown by GScholar does not even come close to meeting NJournals#2. Clearly does not meet NJournals (let alone GNG), hence: delete. Randykitty (talk) 22:42, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:10, 26 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete, total fail of WP:NJOURNALS. That individual articles are occasionally cited in other journals is not evidence of notability. This is literally indexed nowhere, see . Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:51, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd be fine with merging this to North Sea (publisher), if it existed/was notable. But it doesn't, and is probably unlikely to be notable. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:57, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep – here is a selection of citations demonstrating that it fulfills C2 of WP:NJournals. User:Randykitty's assertion that an item needs to be cited "at a minimum hundreds of times" in order to be notable appears to be a statement of opinion, as there is no such requirement expressed within WP:NJournals itself. Here is a selection of instances where J Energy Chall Mech has been cited in well-established sources (list is non-exhaustive):
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 * Energy
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360544215005150
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360544217318649
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360544216315468
 * International Journal of Hydrogen Energy
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360319917324035
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S036031991732791X
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360319917320207
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360319916336540
 * Journal of Energy Storage
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352152X1630278X
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352152X16300913
 * International Journal of Greenhouse Gas Control
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1750583615301705
 * https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1750583617300658
 * Ocean Engineering - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0029801817307369
 * Fisheries - http://tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03632415.2017.1276330
 * Renewable Energy - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960148115304511
 * Reference Module in Materials Science and Materials Engineering - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128035818040054
 * Surface and Coatings Technology - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0257897216312816
 * Applied Energy - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030626191500149X
 * Journal of Microbiological Methods - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167701216303426
 * Industrial & Engineering Chemistry Research - http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acs.iecr.5b02211
 * Swarm and Evolutionary Computation - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210650215000978
 * Reliability Engineering & System Safety - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0951832016308316
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 * I can't argue with the fact that this journal is relatively new, but I would argue that it is notable in part precisely because, despite having only published 13 issues in 4 volumes thus far, it has already been cited numerous times in such major publications.--Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 19:53, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * AFAICT, the most highly cited article from this journal has 15 cites, the next one has 4 cites, then two with have 3 cites, and then a dozen or so with 2 or 1 cites. With an h-index of ~2, this is nothing. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:25, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't argue with the fact that this journal is relatively new, but I would argue that it is notable in part precisely because, despite having only published 13 issues in 4 volumes thus far, it has already been cited numerous times in such major publications.--Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 19:53, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * AFAICT, the most highly cited article from this journal has 15 cites, the next one has 4 cites, then two with have 3 cites, and then a dozen or so with 2 or 1 cites. With an h-index of ~2, this is nothing. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:25, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 00:29, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Headbomb. On rare occasions, a journal can be notable even before it attracts many citations, if the act of founding it received sufficient coverage in multiple independent sources. That does not appear to apply here. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 17:26, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. put simply, not yet notable-- and, considering that it is essentially a device to publish papers from a single series of non-notable conferences, not likely to ever be.  DGG ( talk ) 19:22, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


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