Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jovan Radomir


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The result was keep. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Jovan Radomir

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (biographies) requirement. It seems to me like a case of a person who is just living a pretty much everyday life in the media industry, not meeting notability guidelines: the sources are mentioning him in passing or are written by him (ex. he conducted some interviews, but was not interviewed himself), he has not won any awards, he appeared on TV a few times as a journalist/host (i.e. in his professional role), he played a minor role in a single movie, published a single book, written lyrics for one song - no matter which guideline I look it at - WP:AUTHOR, WP:MUSICBIO, etc. - he seems to fail it. The best he has going for him is that he appears on google, but this is true for most journalists, and being a journalist or a television presenter, does not make one notable, even if it means they pass WP:GOOGLETEST. Oh, and it seems he was created as part of the drive to write bios for people associated with Eurovision, but although he "was the Swedish spokesperson at the Eurovision Song Contest in 2004 and 2006, announcing the results of the national televoting" this is not the stuff that should put one in an encyclopedia, as much as it may pain fans of Eurovision - Eurovision-related people are not auto-notable, neither. Thoughts? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:57, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep -plenty of good references. Has had several media jobs in Sweden and Serbia. Has film roles and has published a book, all referenced. Also per WP:GNG. Seems like the nominator has failed to understand basic Wiki guidelines. I am also confused as to how Piotrus thinks that IDONTLIKEIT applies. Per deletion rationale that there is a "push" for these kind of articles to be created. --BabbaQ (talk) 07:49, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are plenty of good references that he has had several media jobs etc., but having a job does not make him notable, despite that some editors seem to think ILKIKEEUROVISION makes anything and everything related to this show notable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
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 * weak delete - the nomination is sound and makes a lot of sense, and I can't find anything useful in reliable Swedish sources either. Weak delete because I have not had that much time to look for sources so I may have missed something obvious. Publishing a book does not in itself make a person notable. --bonadea contributions talk


 * The article ha been improved further with more info and sources since the nom and the wd !vote. --BabbaQ (talk) 11:11, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I do appreciate your expansion, but for me I still feel this fails NBIO (no in-depth coverage, this is cobbled together from passing mentions) and WP:ENTERTAINER/CREATIVE/ETC. are not met. Through I would not be surprised this will be closed as no consensus (which is fine with me, if it is kept I doubt I will revisit this before 5 years or so if at all :D). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  09:48, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep The subject of the article is a television presenter in Sweden, has appeared on multiple nationally televised programs, and has received coverage for this in multiple publications. (Granted the references are in Swedish and I am reading rough translations) If anything it's enough to meet WP:GNG it would seem which is enough for a keep. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep TV personality for a long period, songwriter, actor, Eurovision personality. The article has many references from independent sources. werldwayd (talk) 22:03, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: Has coverage in multiple secondary sources to satisify GNG, and further appears to meet WP:ENTERTAINER given he has held multiple roles in television and other performance work. -- Whats new?(talk) 04:50, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


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