Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jovanka Beckles


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The result was delete. Redirect (the "merger" argument sounds more like a redirect argument to me) at editorial discretion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Jovanka Beckles

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Candidate for election to state legislature. One of 2 candidates running on her Party's ticket (it works like that in California,) she garnered a flurry of attention by placing second in the Primary election that selected 2 nominees. Little or no pre-campaign notability, although there is some coverage of prior campaigns, and she was a member city council and vice-mayor of a city of ~100,000 pop. Democratic Socialists of America candidates, 2018 election is a potential target for a REDIRECT. E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2018 September 2.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 12:36, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
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 * The election isn't until November. The brief flurry of post-election coverage is WP:BLP1E.  I can see an excellent argument for moving this to somebody's user space.  But I am wary of setting a precedent for keeping candidate articles based on an argument that boils down to :   it's OK to start/keep an article about a candidate as long as you are sure that they will win....E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:16, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete unelected candidates are almost never notable, no reason to make an exception here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:55, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, without prejudice against recreation in November if she wins. Wikipedia does not deal in the realm of election predictions, so the fact that a candidate is considered likely to win the election is not a notability claim in and of itself — our notability criteria are based on what's already true today, not what new things that aren't already true today might become true in the future. And since every candidate in every election always generates some coverage in their district's local media during the campaign, the fact that said coverage exists is not an automatic WP:GNG pass in and of itself either. If she does win the election in November, then the article can be recreated as her notability claim will have changed to one that guarantees a Wikipedia article — but simply being a candidate as of today is not enough. (And no, Richmond CA is not a large enough city to confer automatic notability on its city councillors, either.) Bearcat (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per Bearcat. SportingFlyer  talk  18:55, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Democratic Socialists of America candidates, 2018 election as useful search term. While not covered outside of local sources now, we have a parent article set up to collect this bio's sourced contents. czar  20:04, 9 September 2018 (UTC)


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