Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joy Kingston


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The result was   keep. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 01:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Joy Kingston

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Much of the text on this page is copyvio from this page on a connected site. I've been Googling and can only find maybe about 20 throwaway references to her in old 50s newspaper reports, and one dress in the LACMA with no information at all on it. While I normally champion obscure/nearly forgotten (by the modern world) fashion designers, I cannot find anything to indicate that Joy Kingston was particularly influential in her day. Even the bio does not mention that she won any awards except for the Dallas Alice (which I've never heard of and doesn't seem to be much about it on Google either although there IS a band called that which is swamping the results a bit...) so I'd query whether she was particularly notable in her day either. It pains me to say this, but I nominate this page for deletion, due to lack of resources, and the fact that there's such a nice biography on her on the foundation website so it's not like it's info not available elsewhere. Mabalu (talk) 20:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:58, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - Article has been cleaned up. Copyvio problems of information copied and pasted from Joykingstonfoundation.org has been removed. This individual has received press coverage, much of which is paywalled. Here's two sources I've added to the article:
 * Abstract: "Leave it to a California designer to ignore the traditional fall colors and develop her own--all to good purpose, too. That's exactly what Joy Kingston did in her collection of spectator sportswear titled, "Woman About Town and Country."
 * — Northamerica1000(talk) 22:22, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! That does make it a lot more palatable. Those paywall articles really frustrate me as what little in snippet form I could see looked like throw-away refs or just passing mentions, so thank you for looking them up. I'd go for keep now. The California designers really are nowhere near as well documented as the New York ones which makes researching the more obscure ones a bit trickier - I was surprised there wasn't even a non-reliable-source blog entry about her. Mabalu (talk) 23:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! That does make it a lot more palatable. Those paywall articles really frustrate me as what little in snippet form I could see looked like throw-away refs or just passing mentions, so thank you for looking them up. I'd go for keep now. The California designers really are nowhere near as well documented as the New York ones which makes researching the more obscure ones a bit trickier - I was surprised there wasn't even a non-reliable-source blog entry about her. Mabalu (talk) 23:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Leaning Keep - Per sources found thus far (see above). Northamerica1000(talk) 09:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
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