Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joy to the World (Mariah Carey song)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. Discounting sockpuppets, there were 7 keep, 4 delete, and 7 merge votes. As with Articles for deletion/Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town (Mariah Carey song) and Articles for deletion/O Holy Night (Mariah Carey song), I do not believe there is enough consensus as to what action should be taken. However, I did move the article to Joy to the World (Mariah Carey single).  Rob e  rt  23:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Joy to the World (Mariah Carey song)
See above discussions. FuriousFreddy 02:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge all commercial versions of Joy to the World to a single article. -- BD2412 talk 03:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Mariah Carey's version of the song is a combination of the Christmas song and the 3 Dog Night song. It also a lot of detail on its remixes and music video that would be lost if the article were merged. OmegaWikipedia 03:25, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Amount of detail does not warrant keeping an unneccessary article. If information is desired to be kept, merge it to the article on the album. --FuriousFreddy 03:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to original album, as per WP:ALBUM. Jkelly 03:31, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Omegawikipedian, merging would be bloat. Kappa 06:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * No, keeping a whole page of artist bio for each of many non-notable Christmas-song covers that didn't even make the charts would be bloat. Delete or merge to the not-very-notable album it's on, per WP:MUSIC.  Barno 15:29, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Barno, the song did indeed in chart in Australia and the USA dance chart OmegaWikipedia 15:42, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Kappa, as much as admire your tenacity for sticking it out on some tough ones around here, I think Barno is (mostly) right on this one. Merge. --Jacquelyn Marie 22:03, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with the album it's on. Failing that, delete. Not notable enough to stand as a separate article. Jonathunder 07:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Jonathunder, what's the deal with your signature? I've added your name to your votes twice now. It's just listing the time you voted. Thanks -- Kjkolb 09:06, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to album. -- Kjkolb 08:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge &amp; redirect; not notable enough for separate article. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 13:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Ultimate Star Wars Freak 15:10, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with album. >:  Roby Wayne  Talk &bull;  Hist 23:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Everyking 03:25, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Merry Christmas (album). Extraordinary Machine 11:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect -- not notable enough to warrant a separate article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phronima (talk • contribs) 14:57, 1 October 2005
 * Keep. It was released as a single, had several remixes and a video. We have articles about all Mariah singles. It would mess up their chronology if this article were deleted. Alensha 15:14, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to the album. The article on the song could also mention this version, if it's relevant.  Friday (talk) 16:35, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. As part of her discography, and is still a single release by Carey. Winnermario 00:01, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete outright or merge. Pop-music-cruft. --Calton | Talk 03:48, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP : Mariah's singles are an important part of knowing the work she has accomplished throughout the years. Why delete this page? What have we got to lose? I think that having the most information as possible about a singer, like Mariah Carey in this case, should be keeped if possible.Mczelda 04:44, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * This user's fourteenth edit, of which three have been to (Mariah Carey) articles, and four to other AfDs on Carey singles. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:12, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * What we have to lose via untrammeled Careyology is database bloat and resulting server sluggishness and downtime. -- Hoary 14:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've just now cut some terminally trivial stuff -- example: The remix is noted for being only the third resung dance remix in her career (and her second resung remix with Morales). However, due to the limited release of the single, "Fantasy is often seen as the second effort between Carey and Morales. -- and more could be cut besides, risking the discomfiture of only a small number of people, who anyway would really be better off on a fansite. What's left after more trimming should be merged with a single article on this song. -- Hoary 14:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep --Anittas 21:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep --Musicpvm 19:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge. Individual recordings of songs are intrinsically non-notable. Susvolans ⇔ 15:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Do not request for deletion just because you do not like an artist. DrippingInk 20:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Again, who here is requesting for deletion because they don't like Mariah Carey? Certainly not I; serveral of her songs are among my favorites, and she is a great singer. This nomination has nothing to do with whether or not I like the singer or not; it has to do with the neccessity for an article. Don't assume bad faith in AfD nominations. --FuriousFreddy 23:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This song is an important Mariah Carey single.
 * Previous unsigned comment is by User:WScott. It is also his sixth edit. --FuriousFreddy 23:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.