Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jozef Teodor Mousson


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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Jozef Teodor Mousson

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Google Books search only turned up one reference that might be about the subject (in Slovakian)— the other hits (there were only five total) didn't look promising and had no content I could access through the Internet. Article has only one external link as a reference, and it is the same as the only "reference" in the article on the Slovakian Wikipeda. If there are more Slovakian references that are reliable, substantive, independent, and verifiable, they might be adequate to justify retaining this article. Without them, this person does not appear to meet the English Wikipedia's notability requirements. KDS4444 (talk) 13:15, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete no sources indicate that subject would pass any notability guidelines for artists.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:45, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep I think - there are loads of paintings online, mostly for sale at reasonable prices, some with longer bios attached. We can't expect everything to be on the internet and in English. They look absolutely horrid, but there you are. Johnbod (talk) 03:54, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:13, 7 May 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep The only source provided in the article(there are others), which doesn't appear in any libraries I can consult, including worldcat, appears to be this book, which appears to be a serious monograph. That is significant critical attention, so he can pass WP:ARTIST. His work appears at auction, and if the listed prices example are real, €12,000 to €27,000 is respectable. Mduvekot (talk) 18:07, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:40, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- appears to be a notable artist; see for example:
 * "Graphic artist Teodor Jozef Mousson with its own painting style became famous already for his life. After the death became a painter Zemplín sun and people. He fulfilled the dream of the artistic journey, when he started studying fine art at the Eduarda Ballu. (...) His paintings are in Slovak and foreign museums, galleries and in private collections. ..."
 * Source: "Mousson is indelibly written in the history of the whole Zemplína". More sources are likely to be available in Slovak.
 * Also appears to be in a permanent collection of this museum (not sure how big / significant it is, but the write up is professionally done):
 * "Jozef Teodor Mousson was born in Högyészy, Hungary, in 1887. In 1905 -1909 he studied at the Academy of Fine Arts in Budapest (Professor E. Ballo). In 1910 he received the scholarship from the Union of Visual Artists. In 1911 he accomplished a short stay in an artistic colony in Nagybányi (Baia Mare, Romania), where he acquired the basic skills of landscape art. From 1911 he lived permanently in Michalovce. Until 1919 he was an art teacher, then a freelance artist. He visited Italy – Venetia in 1913 as a study stay. In 1931 he moved to a villa in Hrádok near Michalovcem, the admirer of his work, earl A. Sztáray offered the place to him to stay there. ..."
 * Source: Jozef Teodor Mousson: Market in Banská Štiavnica.
 * On the balance of things, given the non-English source challenges, appears to be notable. K.e.coffman (talk) 05:36, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Comment There is also this 1977 book:Teodor Jozef Mousson v zbierkach Zemplínskeho múzea v Michalovciach. 84.73.134.206 (talk) 05:55, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment: if the article is kept, should be moved to Teodor Jozef Mousson -- appears to be better known under this name, vs "Jozef Teodor". K.e.coffman (talk) 21:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


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