Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juan Bernardino


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The result was keep per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 00:17, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Juan Bernardino

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I attempted to improve this and simply found no signs of meaningful improvement as there's no good sources and information and has an overall in-universe setting (granted, it seems from the 15th and 16th centuries but there's not even minimally good improvement). The best results my searches found here and here. Existing since November 2005 and sparsely edited since then, this certainly needs attention. Notifying and inviting. SwisterTwister  talk  23:10, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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The subject is also discussed in a diverse array of other sources, including the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Wisconsin, the University of Dayton , the Philippine Daily Inquirer and many more. Clearly, Juan Bernardino is a significant part of the background of Our Lady of Guadalupe. There are certainly possible improvements for the article, but in light of the large number of WP:RS for the subject, it meets WP:N and WP:V. Calamondin12 (talk) 02:11, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep or at least a redirect to Our Lady of Guadalupe. So many sources in books AFD is not cleanup and shouldn't really be used that way.--Samuel J. Howard (talk) 01:08, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Large number of sources found for the subject, including numerous books. A sampling:
 * Our Lady of Guadalupe: The Origins and Sources of a Mexican National Symbol, by Stafford Poole
 * Our Lady of Guadalupe and Saint Juan Diego: The Historical Evidence, by Eduardo Chávez
 * Mexican Spirituality: Its Sources and Mission in the Earliest Guadalupan Sermons, by Francisco Schulte
 * Encyclopedia of Sacred Places, by Norbert C. Brockman
 * Hispanic/Latino Theology: Challenge and Promise, edited by Ada Maria Isasi-Diaz and Fernando Segovia
 * Keep. It merely sounds like someone needs to improve the article. StAnselm (talk) 04:14, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Snow keep? Little is known about this individual, but what little is known we should have in an article. Not all articles need to be long and detailed, provided they help readers identify a reference. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 21:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


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