Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juan Bobo (comic book)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Discussion regarding a rename, merging content and reorganization can continue on an article talk page. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica1000 02:09, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Juan Bobo (comic book)

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This comic book series is not specially notable. It's not covered by non-trivial third part sources. This article only list the dates of publications. All relevant information in the article is actually about the folkloric character Juan Bobo, that already has its own article. damiens.rf 16:24, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


 * KEEP - This article does much more than "list the dates of publications." It also has sections on the Juan Bobo Character, First Publishing, Other Juan Bobo Published Media, Sales, and several other sections.  It also has a highly detailed infobox. The article is also sourced with (as of this moment) 69 citations. Sarason (talk) 18:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * As I said, all relevant information in the article is actually about Juan Bobo the character. Only the section "Publishers" is about the comic books.
 * It's even wrong to state that there is a comic book called "Juan Bobo" to write an article about. There are lots of comic books (and books, and plays...) about the public domain folkloric character Juan Bobo and that is it. What is this article about? --damiens.rf 10:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - The comic book is notable and the over 60 reliable third party sources prove it. Notability is also established by the books having been printed by over 20 notable, reputable publishers during the last almost 100 years. Notability is further established by the several reviewers of the books, all independent, reputable parties (Kirkus Reviews, Library Journal, Publishers Weekly, Booklist, etc). It's odd the nomination claims lack of notability stating that "This article only list the dates of publications" and yet none of the 60+ citations in the article are linking to the table listing the dates of publications. Odd is also that nomination says "all relevant information is...about the folkloric character Juan Bobo"  when the things discussed here, such as who where the book reviewers, who were the book publishers, over how long they the books published, what other venues published the stories (novels, plays, etc) of the book, who are the authors and illustrators of the book , etc., have nothing to do with the folkloric character itself but are attributes associated with the comic book series being nominated. Mercy11 (talk) 21:18, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The idea is to have an article just about the character and other about the (comic) books about the character? Did I understand it right? Are the independently notable enough to have each on its own article? --damiens.rf 10:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I concede it may make some sense. This is what happens with Garfield (see Garfield (character)) and Dilbert (see Dilbert (character)). Is that the plan for Juan Bobo? Are the comic publications notable enough by themselves? --damiens.rf 10:20, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * p.s.: There are not "over 60 reliable third party sources" in the article. Just over 60 "''links used in the reference sections'". A lot of the are primary sources (usually the comic book in question), some links to blogs, and some other links pointing to online bookstores selling the books. --damiens.rf 10:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Puerto Rico-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:07, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:07, 18 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 02:35, 25 March 2014 (UTC)



Leaving a main factual article about books, other media, educational use, etc. and another article about the character, his deeds and nature, and sociological significance. Noyster  (talk),  18:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - how could WP not have an article about such a widely-distributed and long-lasting series? The logical approach would be to :
 * (1) rename the existing Juan Bobo as Juan Bobo (character)
 * (2) transfer most of the books & media material out of Juan Bobo (character) and merge into this one
 * (3) rename this one as plain Juan Bobo
 * Comment: Sounds like a great idea. Done! Mercy11 (talk) 01:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.