Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juan Branco (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I'd suggest we save protection unless the improved article is shown to be unstable but happy for a ping on my talk if further steps are required Spartaz Humbug! 23:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Juan Branco
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Does not passes the notabilities guidelines.

Most facts about his career are either prettified or unverifiable.

Most sources are either unreliable or related with him (at least politically).

The main notable fact about him is not mentioned. It is his implication in the recent political revenge porn by Petr Pavlensky D.Lazard (talk) 19:30, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:56, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:56, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. D.Lazard (talk) 20:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete,This article is self-serving. Juan Branco is a nobody. Nothing in his life justifies an entry in Wikipedia (unless you want to add 7 billion people in this encyclopedia). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean-Guy Rens (talk • contribs) 20:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, Branco is quite famous in France, and most people will have heard of him (albeit not really for good reasons); there are many reliable sources on him (mostly French media). The problem is that he is known for editing Wikipedia for his own benefit. His article on the French WP is full of edit wars and manipulated sources. T8612  (talk) 23:46, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, Juan Branco is famous in France, but only for his implication in the Benjamin Griveaux video affair. By WP:1E, this is not a reason for keeping the article. This is only a reason for redirecting to an article about this affair (or to Benjamin Griveaux or Petr Pavlensky, if his name would be mentioned in these articles in the future). D.Lazard (talk) 11:42, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Not only, he was Assange's lawyer, published a successful book against Macron (250k copies sold), was involved in the Yellow Vests movement, and is everywhere in the media. T8612  (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. With Benjamin Griveaux video affairs, there are many reliable secondary sources about the biography of Juan Branco, which give a view of it that is very diffferent to that given in the article under discussion. Here are two of them (in French), one about his biography, and one about his relation with Wikipedia. D.Lazard (talk) 12:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: as said, although it's an autobiography, I think the subject reaches criterias. The French page has been completely rewritted, by "true" wikipedians, during the last 2-3 days, following articles in the press mentioning his contributions to the article— Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vertsaxo (talk • contribs) 15:05, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment. The English page was created and is mostly written by Branco himself, under at least one obvious alias, Banguicourage, which is a phonetic pun on his actual name. PetitCesar (talk) 18:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment The subject might merit a French article but not an English one. As it stands the article is a hagiography and would have to be completely rewritten in any event. XInolanIX (talk) 17:05, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * On further reflection, i think a proper rewrite would be preferable to a deletion. His link to Assange and his role in the fall of the EM candidate during the mayoral race could merit sufficient notoriety. XInolanIX (talk) 17:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete, This article is self-serving, and Juan Branco is only known in France for manipulating media to get known, and particularly WP entries, to his own and only advantage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emigré55 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. and rewrite.  DGG ( talk ) 18:20, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I found this through the academic deletion list, and he's clearly not notable as an academic. In the previous AfD I also thought he didn't have enough WP:GNG notability. But now I think the Canal+ piece on his work with Assange, the Point piece on his role in the Griveaux scandal, and the Figaro piece on his Wikipedia misbehavior give him a clear case for WP:GNG notability, and the article has been significantly reworked to reduce its promotionalism. Given the behavior described by Le Figaro, I think permanent protection or at least permanent semiprotection may be warranted, to prevent this behavior recurring. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Since I opened this discussion, the article has deeply changed, thanks mainly to . I am not sure whether Branco is sufficiently notable for English Wikipedia, but, presently, the level of notability remains the only criterion that could justify a deletion. Being French myself, I am not well placed for judging his international notability. So, I change my !vote to a weak keep. Also I agree with 's suggestion of a protection of the article. D.Lazard (talk) 09:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. As a result of this AfD, the article has been substantially rewritten and is no longer a TNT case. Passes GNG. Edwardx (talk) 12:25, 1 March 2020 (UTC)


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