Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juche-Capitalism


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The result was delete. (WP:SNOW close). North America1000 08:23, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Juche-Capitalism

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An entirely WP:OR idea that no reliable source has ever mentioned. A WP:BATTLEGROUNDish WP:POVFORK following multiple reverts at the article Juche. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:40, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

* insert; It uses the same sources like the Juche article on wikipedia. The accusations made for Juche-capitalism article applies also for the current Juche article. The Juche-Capitalism article is quite neutral and the only article on Juche that makes some sense based on the sources provided by both parties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JucheCapitalist (talk • contribs) 15:31, 31 August 2018 (UTC) this user has been blocked as sockpuppet.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:10, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete; clear OR & soapboxing by an obvious agenda account. BegbertBiggs (talk) 16:26, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If I may, I would like to add some evidence supporting a pattern of soapboxing what may politely be referred to as a fringe theory, in addition to a pattern of behavior suggesting a less than reasonable position. However the evidence comes from another wiki, RationalWiki to be precise, and I am unsure if it would be admissible here. Comrade GC (talk) 18:25, 31 August 2018 (UTC)


 * insert Juche-Capitalism; but delete Juche. State sources and other sources used in the Juche article are not reliable and doesn't prove anything, because Juche is described as a man centered ideology(even by state sources) and by Juche-capitalism and therefore can be regarded as an anti-state ideology. Therefore the Juche article on wikipedia needs to be deleted before everything else in my opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JucheCapitalist (talk • contribs) 17:57, 31 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete This is very clearly not a real thing as a search on Google Scholar will show. Sources are terrible and don't actually support the article content. Fails WP:GNG. – FenixFeather (talk) (Contribs) 19:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 17:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable term, no supporting references. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:50, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * NOT delete there is plenty of references on the Internet. A job well done, User:JucheCapitalist. It is very difficult to write about Juche...when one is worried about those commie socialists intellectual state propagandists slaves trying to delete, invert and pervert everything that reassembles the truth! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KimYaJong (talk • contribs) 01:19, 2 September 2018 (UTC)  KimYaJong !vote struck as sock-puppet of JucheCapitalist power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 23:40, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Juche is a thing like a donkey is a thing. Capitalism is a thing like the moon is a thing. "Juche-Capitalism" is not a thing like "donkey-moon" or "moon-donkey" is not a thing. It is complete and utter bollocks. Furthermore the search links demonstrate that it is not bollocks of any notable kind. Google Scholar suggests that the phrase was used once, in 1998, and then failed to attract any further interest. There is nothing to suggest that what is written here even has anything to do with what was spoken about in 1998. This is much more likely to be the author's own invention. Speedy delete as unverifiable, as almost certain hoax, as vandalism, as trolling, and as an egregious waste of everybody's time. Surely, even the sockpuppets must have better things to do than this? Also, a few parts seem to be plagiarised from here. --DanielRigal (talk) 01:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems to be a fake ideology not used elsewhere, complete contradiction with the two words, even if the ideology existed, article would quite easily fail WP:NOTE. JDuggan101 (talk) 15:40, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete  Doesn't seem significant in any way via sources or searches. So delete JC7V  -constructive zone  17:44, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Jaundiced ideology created by a dictator, seems to conflate capitalism with anarchy. Not a good thing to mix. scope_creep (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: I think it is fake ideology. --Garam (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete'. Reads like a rather blatant WP:HOAX - particularly the bottom half of the present article. Kim Il-sung was an avowed Marxist, and he did not "In 1956, Kim Il-sung declared Juche-capitalism to be the guiding principle of the economy but he faced armed resistance from marxists and nationalists, which resulted in 10 000 of dead Marxists[9]. Marxists supported by the Soviet Union and China stormed in 1956 privately owned means of productions that were already protected by Juche-Capitalists private armies.". he did however declare Juche in the same year (while being subsidized heavily by the Soviet Union and China). I could sorta imagine Kim Jong-un or his successor going the Juche-Capitalist route (and maybe retconning matters back to Kim) - but that hasn't seem to happen yet (at least per what comes out of North Korea and gets reported in RS).Icewhiz (talk) 15:22, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete once I finish laughing. Does Wikipedia have a repository for most ridiculous hoax pages? Because if so this should get stored there. Otherwise yeah, this is obviously nonsense. Simonm223 (talk) 16:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:SNOWDelete or SPEEDY this HOAX. Page creator User:JucheCapitalist has been blocked as a sockpuppet.  (I thought the text was a pretty funny satire.) But it's got to be deleted, now.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Economics-related deletion discussions. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


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