Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Judge Cal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Judge Dredd characters. – sgeureka t•c 13:42, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Judge Cal

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One last holdout from the Great Dredd Topic Massacre, this one as the others is pure WP:PLOT that fails WP:NFICTION. No indication he warrants his own stand alone article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  13:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
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 * Merge/Direct with Judge Dredd. — Hunter Kahn 13:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the main article. It currently fails to establish notability. TTN (talk) 12:22, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 11:25, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep or Merge to List of Judge Dredd characters. Surely this is betting than destroying. I fear the wording of the nomination says it all about the intentions of these nominations and the joy of destruction. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Piotrus has previously displayed signs of nominating articles for deletion for the sake of deletion. J I P  &#124; Talk 12:52, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Quite. Richard75 (talk) 18:14, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 01:23, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree with Necrostep here. I'm not familiar with the Judge Dredd universe, but note that this is a major character. Has this character been the lead character in various storylines? If so, Keep. If not, Merge. I note that the article only discusses in-universe topics and doesn't discuss real-world material on the character. It would be better if the article was improved to do so. Please tag me if evidence is given of the prominence of this character. Ross-c (talk) 09:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Judge Dredd characters, where he is already covered in detail. Merging is not really necessary, as most of the article is comprised of in-universe plot summary, which is already included in the target list, and un-sourced WP:OR about Caligula, which doesn't need to be merged.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:16, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Judge Dredd characters. The article fails GNG, being sourced entirely to primary sources and one source in the completely irrelevant original research about Caligula that is not about the character. Since all information is either in-universe or original research, there is nothing to merge. The accusations of User:Necrothesp are disgraceful, and are an extremely blatant violation of WP:AGF. Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:13, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You think describing previous deletions as the "Great Dredd Topic Massacre" is good faith? It implies an enjoyment of deletion and a desire to delete all articles relating to a particular topic, which personally I think is "disgraceful". That is not what Wikipedia is all about. There is absolutely no need to delete articles when they can be legitimately merged and/or redirected. If nominators want to avoid such "accusations" then they need to moderate the language they use in the nomination and be a little less triumphalist. Hundreds of similar articles have been nominated for deletion in the last couple of months, mostly by the current nominator and a handful of others. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:30, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Generally, I do not consider receiving a measure of satisfaction from what they consider a job well done or telling a one-sentence joke in the nominating statement before moving on to the reason for the article to be deleted to be traits indicative of being a sadist who subsides upon the deletion of articles that you seem convinced the nominator is. Someone disagreeing with you does not make them worthy of the derision with which you treat people attempting to improve this encyclopedia. Devonian Wombat (talk) 09:48, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sadist? No, not at all. Delighting too much in such deletions? Sometimes seems to be the case, as per the language used above. I do not believe that considering mass deletion without redirection "a job well done" is in any way in the spirit of Wikipedia. And the comments above would tend to suggest that I'm not the only one who thinks this. Don't get me wrong, I respect the nominator's many contributions to Wikipedia in most ways, but not here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:40, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Judge Dredd characters, where the character is already covered. I found this one tricky, as given the real world info presented, I thought sources would be easy to find. Sadly, all that I've come across have been either primary, or passing mentions in articles about Judge Dredd. I suspect better offline sources may exist, but until they're located, a redirect is cheap and offers an easy way to recover info. --Killer Moff- ill advisedly sticking his nose in since 2011 (talk) 10:37, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


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