Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Judson Clarke


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is sufficient sourcing exists, but would caution against using that Daily Mail source in a BLP. Whether the draft needs history merging or other treatment can happen editorially. Star  Mississippi  01:55, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Judson Clarke

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Judson Clarke

Australian rules footballer who does not satisfy general notability. There is no special notability guideline for Australian football, so that general notability is the only guideline. The lede sentence and the section on early life and junior football state only that he exists, but Wikipedia is not a directory. The paragraph on his 2022 career states that he played for Richmond, which is a database item of the sort that is no longer a basis for sports notability. Nothing is said about coverage by a reliable source.

There is already a draft, Draft:Judson Clarke, which has somewhat more information, but is also not ready for acceptance. The draft contains a note that the subject does not satisfy WP:NAFL, but that guideline has itself now been deleted. A one-sentence stub was then inserted into article space, which was tagged for BLPPROD. The article was then expanded to the present three sentences with one (paywalled) reference, and the BLPPROD was properly removed, but the article does not make any claim of notability.

The subject may have a fan club of ultras. Wikipedia does not need to accept inadequate stubs written by fan clubs. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Sports,  and Australia. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks sigcov 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 15:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clarke satisfies the stupidly deleted NAFL and has had more coverage than was listed in the article at time of nomination. Nomination also fails to consider alternatives to deletion. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:43, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep. Doesn't seem like WP:BEFORE happened here - a quick search indicates that Clarke had decent specific coverage of his career in the AFL from day one. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 13:48, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Do you even know how to google Robbie? two news articles on him. Not his team, not routine match report, but his debut. Struggling to think how deleting NAFL or other NSPORTS is making this place better at all except for sports hating nuts who think that thrwing around terms like "Ultras" makes them cool.. The-Pope (talk) 13:31, 23 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.