Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Judytwoshoes


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The result was Delete -- JForget 02:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Judytwoshoes

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Completely unreferenced article about a band. The bass player of the band was named "Bill Jackson" and the creator of the article is Wiljaxon so there may be a conflict of interest here. On the face of it, this fails WP:MUSIC. A google search for "Judytwoshoes" brings forth a large number of hits...none of which are this band. A search for "Judytwoshoes" and "Judie Burton" (the lead singer) garners a single hit, this article. IrishGuy talk 01:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Wiljaxon writes: May I point out that the period we are talking about is 1978-early 80´s - therefore an internet search can be expected to give meagre results - especially considering the provincial nature of the music scene at that time. Having said that, there is some evidence, rather than nothing at all, put there by little known record companies. View the links that I mention on this page. The conflict of interest I believe does not really apply here because of the passage of time. I don´t believe in self-promotion or egotism, just putting the record straight. Or in this case, making a record at all! Far more notable than Judytwoshoes itself at that time was the Bristol music scene generally. Perhaps that is worthy of a page in Wikipedia, but then someone more authoritative than myself (ie music entrepreneur/producer) should write it.

Yes I am new to Wikipedia but then ´we´ are invited to make pages! So there you are! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiljaxon (talk • contribs) 18:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Wiljaxon writes: Yes I was involved but anyone is welcome to dispute the facts and edit the article.

Wiljaxon writes: I have found ´internet´ proof that Judytwoshoes existed here: http://www.sugarshackrecords.co.uk/diary/history.htm Unfortunately they printed on the programme (from 1979) what a lot of people did in those days, namely ´Judy Two Shoes´, which is not how the band was ´marketed´.

Wiljaxon writes: The motive for contributing this article is ´historical´. There is no attempt at advertising or self -promotion - we are talking about a ´phenomena´ that was extant almost 30 years ago! The Bristol music scene at that time was very active (and exciting) and reference has been made to other bands who were around at the time. It is unreferenced, that is because the article is new. It takes time to track things down, speak to people, and get them involved.

Wiljaxon writes: Sorry to repeat myself, but maybe the reason is here: http://www.sugarshackrecords.co.uk/diary/history.htm

Wiljaxon writes: It is true to say that compared with ´Blondie´ for example that the band was obscure. But on the other hand it was seen by hundreds if not thousands of people, as were the other local bands at the time. Also, I would not expect anyone to find a reference, on the ´internet´ to Judytwoshoes or any of the other bands of that time. I was surprised to find http://www.sugarshackrecords.co.uk/bands.htm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiljaxon (talk • contribs)


 * Delete per nom. I also notice that the article seems to be serving a dual purpose as an image/sound gallery, which is currently taking up more room than the article itself. Green451 01:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Wiljaxon writes: The motive was not to create an ´image or sound gallery´ - the pictures and sound files are there to complement the text. A good case could be made for reducing the number of files and photos, adding captions etc. But I think it would be a shame if this tiny bit of history should be deleted! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiljaxon (talk • contribs)


 * Delete: Non notable and no ref's. - Rjd0060 05:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. and Green451. Not notable. JohnCD 12:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete eminently NN Mayalld 13:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletions.   -- the wub  "?!"  17:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, unless reliable sources can be produced to verify notability per guidelines. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: Unless reliable sources are produced to prove notability -- ¿Amar៛ Talk to me / My edits 08:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.