Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juggler (pick-up artist)


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The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 20:50, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Juggler (pick-up artist)

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Doesn't actually appear to be notable. See also Articles for deletion/Love Systems (2nd nomination). Black Kite (talk) 18:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Found nothing suitable amongst all of those references. Dead links, blogs, databases, etc.  The strongest one was very weak, where he was asked for advice for a fraction of an article which did not otherwise cover him.  North8000 (talk) 21:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per North; also, the title is incredibly misleading. I thought it was about somebody who juggles things...picking them up you know...yeah. If we're going to call somebody a pick-up artist, we'll need a better source than a dead link and a random website that mentions the guys name once in passing, but doesn't support the statement (especially if he "rejects the title of pick up artist"... huge BLP violation). If we're going to have a BLP, we need to use a real name and have good sources. Also, though the article states that he was "notable" I didn't find evidence of that. The only hint of notability is that he wrote a chapter in The Game (note: that article doesn't mention his name as an author). ~Adjwilley (talk) 22:54, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I came here intending to make a similar comment about the title. "Pick-up artist" is a piece of jargon used only by a small subculture of extremely pathetic men, not a term in general parlance, so if any of these people are notable we need to find a different disambiguator. "Sleazebag" is the first word that springs to mind, but I suppose that would violate WP:NPOV. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:57, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * "Pick-up artist" is a well-known phrase, the title of a 1987 Hollywood film and a more recent VH1 tv show. Whether Juggler is notable is another question, but don't assume that just because you've never heard of something, or it's not part of your day-to-day vocabulary, it's not a real phrase. --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Whether or not this phrase has been used as the title of a film and a TV show I still don't accept that it is the kind of standard, formal language expected of an encylopedia. What's wrong with the good old English word "womanizer"? Phil Bridger (talk) 16:09, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:54, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:55, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails GNG. Carrite (talk) 02:55, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Whether or not this article passes or fails, I wish to make the following comment: you appear to be on a personal deletion mission. I note that you deleted the LoveSystems page, a company that has appeared in: FHM; Globe and Mail; The Economist; Maxim; DrPhill; Fox News; New York Post; Sydney Morning Herald; The Boston Globe ... you know what? Almost all of these were actually linked from the article you deleted. All of these were simply ignored by Black Kite, so I assume any effort at all made here will be similarly ignored. This is largely the reason I stopped participating on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WoodenBuddha (talk • contribs) 10:19, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahem. I didn't voice an opinion on that article; I merely closed the AfD. However that did lead me to look at other articles in the same category, and I found a number didn't have a huge amount of notability.  But again, I didn't delete them - I let others decide, as here. Black Kite (talk) 20:48, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Non-notable for all the reasons given above. Autarch (talk) 20:34, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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